Need advice

Panthau · October 4th, 2009, 17:13

Sorry for beeing a bit overactive in the forum atm

I need advice, and im really unsure about it. The problem is, when i come
down to theta, something is triggered in me which causes extreme nervousness and i dont have any access to that feeling, even EFT doesnt help.

I already had this 2 years ago when i went to a hypnotist because of my claustrophobia. I went straight into a trance state, and 2 days after that i got panic attacks and extreme nervousness (my stomache feels like fire). There was nothing special about the session, it was quite positive, but beeing in a deeper trance state seems to cause this.
Now im suffering again from the same after using Lifeflow 7 for about 2 weeks, maybe not as strong as at that time 2 years ago, but still strong enough that this nervousness causes depression, and it just doesnt get any better.

Im now thinking about what to do. I know no psychotherapist who could be of help, because this seems to be a deeper problem (even the hypnotist couldnt, and he is a well known man here in vienna). I thought about a past-life regression... i have no clue what to do, its just painful atm and i dont want to take any drugs.

Any thoughts?
Thanks
Pan

seatrend8899 · October 4th, 2009, 23:31

Hi Pan,
You should use LF8 for three days then use LF7 for a shorter time than you were. Then bounce back to LF8 for three days and repeat LF7 use again with same shorter time period. Repeat that sequence for at least a month then start increasing the time of the LF7 session using the same day sequence. Continue that cycle for a month, etc, This would allow a gradual exposure to that entrainment level with the opportunity to perhaps be able to "observe" past events and thoughts in a gradual fashion.

With the use of LifeFlow we can "ramp" our dosage very precisely unlike other products.

Just a thought.........

shine on

jim

Panthau · October 4th, 2009, 23:57

Thanks for your advice jim, ill do it that way when i start again. The problem is, that i stopped using LF7 about 3 weeks ago and im still a wreck. I switched to 8, which didnt made it any better, with 9 i had a emotional release and with 10 i had totaly derealisation (maybe theres no coherency with that).

Im afraid of using LF at all atm.... hmpf :-/

seatrend8899 · October 5th, 2009, 02:26

Pan, my friend you have so much to deal with from your childhood. Have you been meditating without entrainment for the last three weeks? You had wanted to "trial" the other entrainment sleep aid sample so much I had no idea that you were having issues.

take care friend

jim

Panthau · October 5th, 2009, 13:59

No i have used LF8 the last weeks, but it made it worse it seems. Im not sure if this all comes from my childhood... my girlfriend has had also a very bad childhood, but she isnt nearly a cripple like me.

I just have no clue what the heck is wrong with me... im sure ill find out in time, its just a bit frustrating, as its now nearly 15 years with anxiety, depression, derealisation and not beeing resilient at all. At times it gets better, thats whats giving me hopes...and LF had the most remarkable effects yet.

pollyanna · October 5th, 2009, 14:08

Hi Pan, I agree with Jim about your childhood issues and I think you're wise in not wanting to take drugs.

Maybe you could look for a doctor who practices homeopathy and he can prescribe some natural alternative.

I noticed in another post that you seemed badly affected when you tried positive affirmations - maybe you are very fragile and need to be especially gentle and kind with yourself. Have you tried the gratitude exercise? The one on the free course Discover Meditation is really good to incorporate into your daily life.

Have you learned how to observe? It's important not to get involved in your story. To observe an emotion is basically the same as observing a thought.The only difference is that while a thought is in your head, an emotion has a strong physical component and so is primarily felt in the body. Allow the emotion to be there without being controlled by it. You are no longer the emotion - you are the observing presence.

I hope this helps Pan and I wish you much peace and joy

Panthau · October 5th, 2009, 15:53

Thanks for your hints and reminder polly, ill take a look at the gratitude exercise.

No im still not able to take distance from my emotions, although im trying. I had once this ability, but dropped it because i thought its important to be connected to your emotions. Now i cant seem to get back there... gotta find out how that works again.

Thanks for the tip with the homeopathy, though i dont believe anything would be of help here. I tried so much, also homeopathy, and nothing helped so far. But i´d think that beeing able to take distance from your emotions is the right step, just gotta find out how to do that.

Thanks again,
Pan

GilesC · October 5th, 2009, 16:11

Hi Pan,

From what you describe, you could perhaps seek out a local Timeline Therapy practitioner. Typically, the practitioner will be trained in NLP, Hypnotherapy and Timeline therapy and be able to use all these together to get to the root cause of your issues and re-anchor the negative with positive back in the past. I'm not skilled in that area myself, but I have seen it in use and it's worked amazingly and quickly for issues that aparently had an "unknown" cause.

Hugs

Giles

GilesC · October 5th, 2009, 16:13

Originally Posted by Panthau

But i´d think that beeing able to take distance from your emotions is the right step, just gotta find out how to do that.

Remind yourself often that, if you can see your emotions, you are notyour emotions, and therefore you can choose to let them go.

Panthau · October 5th, 2009, 18:49

Thanks for the tips, GilesC - ill do as you suggested and seek such a therapist imediately. If i find one, ill give feedback if it helped