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Old September 25th, 2012, 05:09   #1 (permalink)
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Untill a week ago i was meditating 2x a day (morning and night time) 30min each session, currently im meditating only 1x per day 30min, i noticed i would get sleepy during my meditation and loose concentration, I feel much better meditating one time per day in the mornings.

Even though i can meditate for 30min straight , i just can get into a peacefull state, my mind is always racing , thinking random thoughts,at very begining of my meditating journey i experimented with counting my breathes thru my nose, this worked to a certain degree, as i added more time to my meditation i could not keep focus on counting my breathes and my mind began to race again, about 2wks ago i started chanting the mantra "om kleem" at 1st i would count the mantra to 109 , i noticed this made me loose concentration and my mind was not relaxed so i started chanting this mantra without counting it worked for a lil while, then i lost concentration and my mind raced again random thoughts.

The way i mediatate is: I sit an a chair with my back straight and both hands by my knees , thumb touching middle finger and close my eyes, I do not open my eyes , but if i have to yawn i will, if i have an itch i will scratch it, if i want to re postion myself i will, i imagine these things will not affect my meditation.

Any suggestions or opinions are very welcomed.
 
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Old September 25th, 2012, 23:13   #2 (permalink)
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Hi sajor and welcome to the community

"Discover Meditation" is a great way to meditate and you can download it for free from the top left of the community.

Here's a link about meditation that has helped many, many people:-

Principles of Meditation & Entrainment

Hope this helps and wish you much peace and joy
 
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Old September 26th, 2012, 03:00   #3 (permalink)
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Thank you, but im into 30min of meditating, and those start with 5min, i feel like i would be going backwards.
 
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Old September 27th, 2012, 16:03   #4 (permalink)
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I think the point is though, if you don't feel that the meditation is working correctly, then perhaps you need to step back and try smaller meditations just using a single technique.

Looking at what you've written, you are trying to meditate by repeating a mantra, but at the same time you are keeping count of how many times you have said the mantra, or you are trying to count the breaths etc. etc. trying lots of different techniques but not finding satisfaction.

Meditation for a lot of people doesn't just happen straight away, and it can take dedicated practice, sticking at a single technique (unless obviously a technique really doesn't suit you, then of course change to a different one).

You contradict yourself by saying you can meditate for 30 minutes straight, and then you say that your mind is racing etc. etc. Yes, it is perfectly normal for the mind to generate thoughts during meditation, but the fact that you are concerning yourself with those thoughts or watching how they are "racing" means that you are not really getting into a deep meditative state.

The way i mediatate is: I sit an a chair with my back straight and both hands by my knees , thumb touching middle finger and close my eyes, I do not open my eyes , but if i have to yawn i will, if i have an itch i will scratch it, if i want to re postion myself i will, i imagine these things will not affect my meditation.
That's good. As long as you are comfortable. Too many people try and meditate in uncomfortable positions or try and resist scratching those itches etc. but it is perfectly ok to get comfortable and adjust yourself if needed, otherwise they will just serve to distract your meditation.

Polly's suggestion is good... just use the Discover Meditation CD's, start with 5 minutes, and gradually move up the time with the following CD's when you're happy with doing each step.

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Old September 29th, 2012, 00:47   #5 (permalink)
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GilesC, I can now manage to keep my eyes close for 30min straight, I believe it is not all meditation, how bout this, I listen to discrover meditation for 30min at a time, i believe 5min is too little of time. Thank you.
 
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Old September 29th, 2012, 22:39   #6 (permalink)
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Well you do what you're comfortable with, but as you said you were having issues meditating, it's not a bad idea to cut back and take it a little slower.

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