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Old December 29th, 2008, 20:41   #1 (permalink)
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Default Help please.

Hi all. I suffer from prolonged periods of anxiety and worry. Sometimes it can last for days. I am having a particularly bad time at the moment and have had it for a week. I am not sleeping well and seem to be scared all the time.

I wanted to ask everyone is lifeflow suitable for me. I am scared that it is going to mess up my head and make things even worse.

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Old December 30th, 2008, 15:33   #2 (permalink)
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Hi Kelouba
It's so hard to answer your question without knowing more. The best thing would be for you to seek counseling and together with your doctor or therapist, decide whether Lifeflow is right for you.
There's quite a lot of information on Lifeflow here:
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I hope you find what you need and wish you well.
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Old December 30th, 2008, 20:32   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Bhavya View Post
Hi Kelouba
It's so hard to answer your question without knowing more. The best thing would be for you to seek counseling and together with your doctor or therapist, decide whether Lifeflow is right for you.
There's quite a lot of information on Lifeflow here:
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I hope you find what you need and wish you well.
Bhavya

Ditto

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Old December 30th, 2008, 21:13   #4 (permalink)
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Thanks both for your comments. Any more input would be appreciated.

Does anyone have any views on traditional meditation methods to cure anxiety and fear problems?
 
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Old December 31st, 2008, 01:26   #5 (permalink)
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Let me put it this way. I think nearly any problem someone has that could be psychological in nature could eventually be helped by a program of conventional meditation. It ceretainly can't hurt. I was able to over come cluster headaches I suffered for nearly 20 years with a conventional meditation program. I suggest you down load Michaels "Discover Meditation " course and try it. It is a very conventional program. You'll find it in the upper left corner on nearly every page of this web site.

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Old January 1st, 2009, 19:50   #6 (permalink)
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Smile Hi Kelouba

I too have anxiety, panic and agoraphobia. I understand what you are going through. I don't have the Lifeflow program as I can't afford it at this time. However, I have downloaded the sample and I find that if I listen to just a little bit at a time it seems to help. I have tried to listen to the whole thing but so far I can't. So I would suggest starting small like I have and see how it goes. I've struggled with anxiety and panic attacks for several years and have only started meditating in the last couple of weeks. I am finding it helps but I'm using it in small doses. I wish you the best of luck.
 
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Old January 2nd, 2009, 19:31   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Kelouba
I was thinking about your post this morning, reflecting on how I originally got into meditation. Like you, I was experiencing uncomfortable states of being ...general anxiety and unhappiness, the effects of a difficult childhood. I can definitely say that meditation has made a huge difference in helping me with that.

I've found that meditation helps us to discover that we're actually more than OK and that the Universe is actually a friendly place because when we find the love in our heart center, we also find it surrounding us.

If you choose a mantra that touches your heart - that reminds you of safety and warmth, you will do just fine with Lifeflow which is such a great help in discovering the peace and love inside yourself. Just take it slowly and ease yourself into a meditation routine.

In the Course in Miracle's Introduction, it says that we all have to come back to our true essence at some point. We can decide how quickly or slowly that journey will take, but the journey (which they call "The Course" ) is everyone's path. It may take many forms but eventually we'll arrive at knowing our true Selves which is Love (or you can call it Presence, God, or Truth).

To quote the intro:

The course does not aim at teaching the meaning of love, for that is beyond what can be taught.
It does aim, however, at removing the blocks to the awareness of love's presence which is your natural inheritance.
The opposite of love is fear, but what is all-encompassing can have no opposite.
This course can therefore be summed up very simply in this way:

Nothing real can be threatened.
Nothing unreal exists.
Herein lies the peace of God.


In peace
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 02:52   #8 (permalink)
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Kelouba,

Two of the quickest and most effective techniques I know of to relieve anxiety and panic attacks are to use a combination of breathing techniques and acupressure. You can learn techniques for breathing and acupressure for free online. By focusing attention on your breathing it literally changes your body chemistry and moves it into a more peaceful state. And it also diverts your thoughts away from the symptoms of anxiety and panic. All by itself this helps to prevent them from spiraling down into a vicious, self-perpetuating cycle. Let me share a couple of my favorite breathing techniques and then give you links to a couple of websites that give organized instructions for using acupressure along with incredibly detailed pictures and instructions for precisely locating the points to apply pressure on along the meridians.

Dr. Andrew Weil recommends a pranayama technique that has you breathe in through your nose to a count of 4 seconds, hold the breath lightly for a count of 7 seconds, and exhale slowly to a count of 8 seconds. That constitutes one cycle then you begin again. You don't need to be exact as far as the count being measured in seconds. It is the ratio of the breath to the holding of the breath to the exhale of the breath that is important, not that you measure the count exactly in units of seconds. So, in to a count of 4, hold for a count of 7, exhale completely to a count of 8 and repeat. Dr. Weil suggests that you first try 3 cycles of this. You can add more cycles as you become comfortable with the breathing rhythm. Ten cycles should be plenty to get a little relief from anxiety and panic.

The next technique is one that has been demonstrated to have a very positive effect on slowing the heart rate down and reducing blood pressure and it is even more simple than the first technique. Simply breathe in through the nose for 5 seconds then out through the nose for a count of 5 seonds (and yes, in this case you do want exact units of seconds, not just to a count of 5, so it might be helpful to look at a clock or timer at first until you get the pace down.) There is no holding of the breath in this technique. Five seconds in, 5 seconds out. You can practice this for as long as you like. After only a minute or two, especially if you are focusing intently on the breath you should feel the anxiety and panic substantially reduced.

Another technique known to calm the nervous system down is very similar. Breathe in through the nose for 6 seconds and out through the nose for 6 seconds, and units of seconds are also important in this technique. This rhythm helps to increase heart rate variability which is coming to be recognized by medical science as one of the key indicators to overall health of the body. The greater the variability the greater the health of the individual. In this technique it is also important to take the breath fairly deep down into the diaphragm and not just shallow into the top part of the lungs. This is another technique you can practice for as long as you like.

As far as acupressure, one of the best points to press on that I know is right on your breast bone about an inch and a half up from the bottom of the rib cage where it ends. It will probably feel like there is a slight depression in that spot when you feel for it. This one point is so good for relieving anxiety, panic and fear that its nickname in Chinese is something like "the well of tranquility." There are many other good points as well. You don't need to hit all of them. One or two or a few of them will probably be sufficient to produce near immediate relief. And you can press them or tap on them as often as you like. You really can't overdose like you can with pills and chemicals. Here are those sites that give all the great instructions:

PointFinder: The Online Acupressure Guide

Acupuncture . acuxo

If you combine the breathing with some acupressure, especially while listening to Lifeflow (even the free sample would help) you will have some very powerful tools to help you not just manage the symptoms but in time overcome the root causes of anxiety and panic.

Best wishes. I'm sure 2009 will be the year you put the issues with panic and anxiety behind you!

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Old January 3rd, 2009, 17:01   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks everyone for your posts.

I have just listened to the 14 min free trial. I dont feel any different at this stage, should I keep listening to it? or will something just happen?
 
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Old January 3rd, 2009, 19:31   #10 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by kelouba View Post
I have just listened to the 14 min free trial. I dont feel any different at this stage, should I keep listening to it? or will something just happen?
Kelouba,

What are you doing while listening to the LF sample?
 
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