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Old June 11th, 2010, 13:38   #1 (permalink)
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I need to find someone that I met 2 weeks ago. I dont have any of this person's contact info. Its VERY important that I see this person again. Given the right amount of faith, visualization and affirmations, will the law of attraction make it possible for me to find this specific person?
 
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Old June 13th, 2010, 19:05   #2 (permalink)
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I doubt so. Because it seems a strained situation, and the LOA only works if you´re able to completly let go of your desire. Thats at least, how i learned it.

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Old June 14th, 2010, 15:07   #3 (permalink)
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Pan is right but it can work. More than 15 years ago I saw a woman at a restaurant that I was very interested in but she was on a date. In my mind I knew I would have the chance to meet her again. That was in July. I put her completely out of my mind but knew somehow I would get to know her. I met her at a Halloween party that fall and married her a year and a half later. The important part was I (uncharacteristically) had NO doubt. None. I don't know exactly how I did it but I know that was The Law of Attraction at work. It was magic.
 
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Old June 14th, 2010, 22:23   #4 (permalink)
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Pan is right but it can work. More than 15 years ago I saw a woman at a restaurant that I was very interested in but she was on a date. In my mind I knew I would have the chance to meet her again. That was in July. I put her completely out of my mind but knew somehow I would get to know her. I met her at a Halloween party that fall and married her a year and a half later. The important part was I (uncharacteristically) had NO doubt. None. I don't know exactly how I did it but I know that was The Law of Attraction at work. It was magic.
I find your story fascinating because of a similar experience. Many years ago, before my wife and I married, she moved across the country to Florida. Before she moved she sold her home then stayed two months with friends before leaving for Florida. She lived in Florida about 7 months and then moved back across the country again to Washington State where we both lived at that time.

When she sold her home she put a mail forwarding notice in at the Post Office so that mail would be forwarded on to the home of the friends where she was staying before leaving for Florida. Then she put one in again when she moved to have mail forwarded to Florida. Those mail forwarding notifications were only honored for 6 months after which time the Post Office deletes them from your records figuring that by the time 6 months has elapse you will have notified everyone of your new address and mail will no longer need to be forwarded. In this case her first forwarding notice was 9 months old and furthermore had been superceded by the second notice she put in. The second notice was 7 months old, so it, too, would have expired.

As it turned out when she moved back to Washington she was in need of the money due her from a tax return to use for a deposit on an apartment. The problem was that she'd filed the return while still living in Florida, so that's the address the IRS would have used to mail her return back to her.

She called the IRS and was told the refund had been sent out almost a month earlier and they had no further tracking records regarding it. She told me she was going to take a morning off work and drive to the post office in the town where she'd lived before moving to Florida and see if they had this particular piece of mail from the IRS.

I laughed at this and told her that was not possible. There are some very strict regulations regarding how the Post Office is required to handle checks like that issued by the US Dept. of Treasury. You cannot, for example, receive one intended for someone else and write "Please Forward" with a new address and send it along. They have to return it to Treasury if the address it was sent to is no longer valid. The only exception to this is if the Post Office itself has a valid forwarding request signed by the intended recipient on record. Since these expire after 6 months she had none, but even if they did honor her last forwarding request it would have been the one to Florida.

But the bottom line is this piece of mail was fully a month old by that time. It would not have taken that long to forward a piece of mail regardless of where it was being forwarded to, nor would a Post Office be allowed to just sit on it and do nothing. Treasury regulations required it to be sent back to them, and the IRS confirmed they had no record of its return. There was only one realistic possibility and this is that this particular check had been lost in the postal system and would eventually have to be reissued once she reported it missing.

I tried to explain all this to her but she just wouldn't listen. "Taking a morning off to go to that Post Office is a waste of time," I told her. She insisted that she absolutely had to have that check and had no doubt it would be there when she arrived. Despite my best efforts at trying to get her to accept what was obvious, she took that morning off and went on her errand.

First she went to the office she'd originally had mail forwarded to prior to leaving for Florida. They checked and, no surprise here, told her they had no record of it. They also checked and found there was no active forwarding request on postal records for her.

Any sane person at that point would have conceded the obvious fact that I'd been right all along and called it quits. She didn't. She said as long as she had the morning off she would just go to the original Post Office that serviced the home she'd sold and check there.

This is where things got interesting. She got there and waited quite awhile in line to speak to someone. When it was her turn she explained what she was there for. The person confirmed there was no forwarding request on record for her. She also looked in some sort of slush pile where mail that is damaged or the address is not easily readable goes to see if it had by chance ended up there. Still nothing.

Then the woman went in back and was gone for a minute or two. When she returned she had an envelope in her hand. It was the check my wife was looking for. She explained that the mail truck driver that serviced the area where her old home was had just pulled in from his morning round. He had this particular piece of mail with him and was just walking it back to wherever they sort the mail so it could be returned to the US Dept. of Treasury when the woman from the front counter had seen him and intercepted it.

It was addressed to Florida just as it should have been. There was no record in their system of its having been forwarded on from anywhere, yet there it was in a Post Office across the country in Washington State. The IRS had been correct, the postage mark on the envelope was from a full month earlier. Where it had been for that month the woman could not say. How it had gotten to that specific Post Office she could also not say. What she did tell my wife was that it should not have been there. And yet it was. Not only was it there, but it arrived at the exact moment that woman stepped in back to check. Thirty seconds earlier or 30 seconds later and she would not have seen the driver.

This should not have ever happened. It could not ever have happened. Yet it did. My wife-to-be deposited that check on her way to work a few minutes later.

I recount this in detail just so you get the full scope of this occurrence. From a statistical standpoint you probably have a better chance of winning the lottery every week from now until the day you die. The probabilities of this occurrence are that non-existent.

And yet my wife was pleased, but not surprised. When she told me, I was dumbfounded. She said she'd never had any doubt about the outcome. I've since learned that when my wife insists something is going to happen, no matter how impossible it sounds, I just need to keep my mouth shut. She's usually right.

I can find no other explanation for this other than as some sort of manifestation event. Statistically it's impossible, therefore I don't think this was a statistical anomaly. As I said, what she did makes winning the lottery look like a guaranteed outcome rather than a chance event. So if it wasn't a statistical anomaly, what was it? My only answer is that her intention somehow caused a reordering of what we normally think of as reality. For those who are Star Trek fans, in one of their first couple of movies we learn that good old Captain Kirk is the only cadet at Star Fleet Academy ever to beat their No-win computer simulation called the Kobiyashi Maru. He did it by cheating, so to speak, in that he got in before the simulation and changed its programming so that winning was now possible.

I suspect this is something similar to what my wife did without even knowing it. The rules that govern what is and is not possible would never have permitted what she achieved to occur. Not in this, or a million other lifetimes. Somehow, without knowning it consciously, she altered those rules so that the impossible was now not only possible, but was inevitable. She had no doubts. This seems to be Attraction or Manifestation in action. I can't think of any other explanation.

But as Pan suggested, if you go into something "wanting" it to happen, the very act of wanting in some way signals you do not accept the outcome as already existing in some form. There is some degree of doubt implied. In my wife's situation she "wanted" nothing. She already knew the outcome, and it was exactly as she knew it would be.

So can you manifest that person? Perhaps, but probably only if you already "know" the outcome and don't just desire it.

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Old June 15th, 2010, 17:05   #5 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Ta-tsu-wa View Post
So can you manifest that person? Perhaps, but probably only if you already "know" the outcome and don't just desire it.
That was a great story !

However, I am not that sure about your conclusion...

What I am missing from your story is how your wife was so sure.
It could be that she is able to generate this feeling of inevitability in what's going to happen, thus shaping and rearranging the world to have the letter waiting for her at the exact time of her arrivel, but it could also be that she picked up some "vibe" of things about to happen by which she somehow knew when and where she had to be in order for the occurrance to take place. Kind of like being "at the right time, in the right place".

Also, I dare say that your wife is occasionally wrong about certain things ( except when you have children, because mothers have this terribly annoying thing that they always seem to be right ). Only in those cases where she, like you said, is absolutely positively sure about what's going to happen, it happens.
I am not doubting that, I have seen similar cases in my surroundings.
But why could it be that your wife is so sure about some things, and not sure about others ? Is there some "divine intervention" that plants a "occurrance yet to happen" in her head ?
Or does it work less if she, for instance, has a cold, disturbing her concentration ?

Still, a great and inspiring story none the less.

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Old June 15th, 2010, 18:35   #6 (permalink)
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This story touches me too.
It's true that there are many conclusions we can draw about why this sense of certainty comes.

I know it's not something that arises as a result of some magic formula. It can't be forced. It just happens, as Grace. And it's not there all the time. (Which can be annoying )

It has a different flavour from another occurrence which can arise through communing with a higher power (God or Guides or whatever terms suits), by requesting something to happen, which is more in line with working with the Law of Attraction.....making the request, handing it over, having real faith that this or something better can come. That can have the taste of certainty, a trust, but it's different from Ta-tsu-wa's example where you absolutely know. As you say, it feels like a tapping into something that's destined to happen.

And there's no doubt that it will.
 
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Old June 15th, 2010, 20:26   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
I am not that sure about your conclusion...

What I am missing from your story is how your wife was so sure.
It could be that she is able to generate this feeling of inevitability in what's going to happen, thus shaping and rearranging the world to have the letter waiting for her at the exact time of her arrivel, but it could also be that she picked up some "vibe" of things about to happen by which she somehow knew when and where she had to be in order for the occurrance to take place. Kind of like being "in the right time, in the right place".
I understand your point, but no, that was probably not the case. Let me try to illustrate why.

There was a physicist engaged in a debate about the possibility of a particular event occurring. To drive home his point he asked, "What would be the effect if, for one instant, every electron in every single atom that made up our moon happened to synch their orbits up in precisely the same direction at the exact same instant in time?"

With some brilliant equations he demonstrated beyond any doubt that the resulting torsion would rip the moon away from the gravitational pull of Earth and send it careening off into space. Thus he said, from a purely mathematical point of view, it is within the realm of possibility that we will one day see our moon leave us in this manner. In other words, mathematically speaking, it could happen.

But what does that same math say about whether or not such a thing actually will happen?

Using more equations he demonstrated such an alignment would not occur during the estimated lifetime so far of our universe. In fact it would not occur even in a time period equivalent to the total estimated lifetime of the universe. What's more, if we took the total estimated lifetime of the universe and multiplied it by the largest number of which we can concieve and then lined those periods of time up consecutively, they would still not even approach the amount of time required before such a lunar event will occur.

In short, while it mathematically could happen, statistically speaking, it never will happen. Some events will simply never materialize because the factors necessary to bring them about are statistically improbable, essentially to a near infinite degree, effectively turning such an event into a practical impossibility.

My wife's experience falls into such a category. It may not be quite as improbable as that postulated lunar event, but its quite high up that same ladder.

The check with the envelope was addressed by the Dept. of Treasury to an address in Florida. It was not forwarded by anyone, either privately or within the postal system officially. What are the statistical chances that very envelope would instead find itself going to Washington State instead?

Furthermore, there are hundreds if not thousands of Post Office branches in Washington State. What are the chances this piece of mail addressed to a home in Florida would not only end up on the other side of the country, but would go to the exact Post Office in the exact town that serviced her former home 9 months earlier? Multiply these two factors and the statistical odds approach non-existence.

But suppose we give the universe the benefit of the doubt and say that somehow, through circumstances no one understands, as unlikely as it was, it happened. Alright, then one must next ask the question, if the envelope was not involved in any sort of forwarding procedure, what are the chances that it would float somewhere in limbo for a full month in that system, especially with the strict regulations of the Treasury Dept. requiring all mailings from them which cannot be delivered as addressed must be returned immediately to the Treasury? Again, the likelihood of such happening is very remote.

To assess the statistical probability you would need to multiply the chances of that mail going to Washington State (with no forwarding of mail of any kind involved,) times the chances it would arrive at that one exact Post Office, times the chances a piece of US Government mail would float in limbo in the postal system for a full month in direct contradiction to all regulations. When you multiply all these factors you arrive at a probability so small it is almost beyond measure. But this is just the beginning.

Next you have to ask what the odds are of my wife picking that particular morning to take off work to go in search of this errant piece of mail. You would have to multiply that times the chances of her getting to that Post Office at just the moment she did so that she could get in line and experience an extended wait just so she could receive service exactly when she did. This would need to be multiplied by the odds of the postal worker checking around the office and ending up going into the back to intercept the delivery driver as he was returning from his morning's run carrying the envelope in question, and doing so within just a few seconds one way or the other so that she did not miss him as he was taking that envelope to the sorting area so it could be sent back to the government. Multiply all these things together and then multiply them again times that astronomically small chance noted above that the mail would ever have gotten to that Post Office in Washington State in the first place, and you have a probability so infinitesimally small it almost doesn't exist.

So, Edwin, that's why I say no, she didn't just intuit something that was happening ala ESP or some such thing. What happened simply couldn't have happened; not by any understanding we have of reality. The possibility of such an event ever occurring is virtually zero, therefore there was no event for her to intuit.

And yet...it happened. Applying Occam's Razor, you have to ask yourself, if she didn't intuit an impossible event, then how did the event come about? The reasonable explanation is that somehow she "caused" it; she manifest it in some way that lies outside of all accepted "real world" possibilities. As unlikely as this sounds it is infinitely more probable than the alternative.

The key to the whole event seems to have been her absolute, unswerving knowledge that she would go to the Post Office and come home with that check. She didn't know how it would happen; she only knew that it would happen.

I find this particular comment of your especially interesting in this light:

Originally Posted by Edwin View Post
What I am missing from your story is how your wife was so sure.
That is I think, the very reason so many people who try some sort of LOA/manifestion work get at best inconsistent results. That degree of quasi-certainty seems likely to be a critical key in making it all work, and few of us ever get to that point of feeling the certainty so deeply as is necessary. Instead, most of us wish, or hope, but we can't really call what we feel a sense of absolute, metaphysical certitude. If there was only some practical way we could trigger that sort of "knowing"...

Perhaps the field of quantum theory holds a key to this and other manifestation events. It's well established now that at least on a sub-atomic level, our observation of events and our expectations as to what we might see when we observe exert a direct influence over the outcome of whatever process it is we're observing. Maybe what is needed is a methodical way to affect tiny things first and then larger things in graduated steps as we gain confidence until we reach the point at which we can manifest whatever we want, whenever we want it on command. It's safe to say no one has reached that point as yet or they would already have manifest a world in which successful, responsible manifestation is the rule for everyone rather than the hit and miss approach currently in vogue.

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I see your point now....
 
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Originally Posted by Bhavya View Post
This story touches me too...

It has a different flavour from another occurrence which can arise through communing with a higher power (God or Guides or whatever terms suits), by requesting something to happen, which is more in line with working with the Law of Attraction.....making the request, handing it over, having real faith that this or something better can come. That can have the taste of certainty, a trust, but it's different...
I agree. Those who believe in a being we might call "God" (and I count myself as one of these,) sometimes pray or ask for things and they happen, sometimes just as we asked, sometimes as variations of our request. I've experienced this countless times in my own life.

But this experience of my wife's and others like it have a qualitatively different feel to them that is difficult to articulate. Perhaps it still contains some direct intervention by a Being of a higher order, but there's something else as well. I've never found anyone who could adequately define just what that "something else" is.

In the case of my wife, she has an unusually large number of occurrences like this; far more than I've ever had myself. For that reason when she tells me she knows something's going to happen, even if it contradicts all reason, I follow her counsel on the matter, and I'm seldom disappointed.
 
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She must be very tuned in. For me, that's what it is rather than your explanation which doesn't seem likely... unless she's really a Master which is possible too. I've seen Great Beings with high attainments (enlightened for want of a better term) bend physical laws and do the impossible. I no longer doubt that physical laws can be transcended by spiritual ones.

It's a good thing you listen to her! She sounds like a very special person.
 
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