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SO FAR, SO NEAR by: Christopher Cranch (1813-1892)

Discussion in 'Mind, Body & Spirit' started by Ramai, Apr 14, 2011.

  1. Ramai

    Ramai Member

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    Enjoy.

    Love,

    Ramai
     
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    Hi Ramai,

    Do you know if this prose was translated from another language? Just curious as I stumble over the second last verse each time I read it.

    Something seems out of context, so I wondered if there is a translation issue or whether it is something with the reader?

    Olmate
     
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  3. Ramai

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    Hi Don,

    I don’t believe this prose was translated from another language.
    In my opinion, dumb in this context is referring to mute, such as “Deaf and dumb”. However, that’s just a stab in the dark; English is my second language...:p

    Best Regards,
    Maria
     
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    Looks as though it's of english source with all those "Thou" "Nor" and "Thee" ;)

    And yes, the "dumb" in the last paragraph is referring to keeping the mouth quiet...

    Let's break it down...

    Although each human claims to be the Self (in the dualistic sense)

    There's no way to observe or words to encompass the whole True Self

    Words cannot describe the True Self

    Only in silence can awarness of the True Self become apparent.


    That's the way I understand it anyway.

    Hugs

    Giles
     
  5. Ramai

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    Thank you, Giles. That was a brilliant explanation, as usual :)

    In the hope that you take pleasure in reading poetry, here is another beautiful poem by Cranch:

    Love,
    Ramai
     
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    Hi Maria,

    I think I may have identified the issue - it is the reader. In the second last verse, it was the word "plastic" that had me intrigued and puzzled. I kept thinking of it in the modern contexts like "plastic bag". When I went and tried to identify the meaning in the circa 1800's context, it has all fallen into place.

    Thanks too for the second helping of Cranch.

    Nothing but the best...

    Don
     
  7. Ramai

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    Hi Don :)
    Ahhh...You stirred my curiosity.
    I completely missed the subtlety of the word “plastic” until now. After an hour of googleing and pondering, all I have is “Celluloid”. Am I on the right track? Help!
    PS. You’re welcome
    Love,
    Maria
     
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    Hi Maria,

    Giles' links help provide some insight to some of the early meanings of some of these words. I like the imagery of an artist shaping, sculpting, moulding and forming.

    I found this little prayer by Michael Leunig which I thought was apt.

    God help us to change.
    To change ourselves and to change the world.
    To know the need for it.
    To deal with the pain of it.
    To feel the joy of it.
    To undertake the journey without understanding the destination.
    The art of gentle revolution.
    Amen

    Wishes for a wonderful, restful, safe and happy Easter break to you and your family. Nothing but the best...

    Don
     
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    Giles,
    Thanks for the links. Now I know where to look when I need help with the true sense of a word.

    Don,
    Nice little prayer by our fellow Australian.
    Thank you for your kind Easter wishes and I wish the same for you and yours.

    Fellow Meditators,
    Hope that you and your loved ones have a wonderful Easter.
    :):):):):)
    Love,
    Maria
     

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