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Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD)

Discussion in 'Your Suggestions' started by Doc H, Apr 7, 2009.

  1. Doc H

    Doc H Member

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    Hello everyone!

    How can Lifeflow help those who suffer from PTSD????

    Does anyone have any experience with Lifeflow mitigating the symptoms of PTSD???:)
     
  2. GilesC

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    Hi Doc H and welcome to Project Meditation.

    I've only just started with Lifeflow myself, but I have been meditating for a good while now as well as doing other things like complementary therapies. Whilst I've not treated anyone for PTSD, I have seen evidence of things like EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques) being very effective for such a condition (the founder of EFT has a video showing him treating Vietnam war vets very effectively and completely changing their lives as a result). More info for that can be found on the EFT website: Using EFT for PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder)

    Also, I could see how meditation, bringing the mind to a single focus, could really be of benefit to PTSD sufferers and I imagine this could certainly be of help with respect of calming the sleep patterns etc.

    I would also be interested to hear from anyone who has suffered from PTSD and has found meditation (or specifically LifeFlow) beneficial.

    :)

    Giles
     
  3. Doc H

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    Symptoms of PTSD treatable by Lifelow??

    The symptoms of PTSD: depression, insomnia, hyperarousal, intense anger, nightmares, intense headaches, emotional outbursts, restlessness, and anxiety.

    I wonder what Lifeflow Tracks would be most beneficial to a Soldier returning from war? Which ones would help the Soldier deal with those symptoms and better integrate the Soldier back into normal everyday society?
     
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    PTSD sufferer

    I came to LF suffering from PTSD from childhood. Life was a war zone at home. I was beat with things totally unimaginable.
    Coming to LF I was an experienced meditator but I was stuck; had been for a very long time. To put it bluntly LF unstuck me almost immediately and I ended up in the corner of a motel room about 500 miles from my home sobbing. Tears well up just thinking about where I've come from and how I feel today. What an experience. I've never turned back and never will. Sky's the limit man!!!;)

    In Deep Gratitude,
    gus
     
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    Gus,
    I am moved by your courage my friend to have kept searching for peace. Many, many people have taken much other darker routes.

    I not know what else to say except your words of support on this forum is a reflection of you finding some peaceful valleys in your journey.


    take care

    jim
     
  6. `Tired`

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    Hi guys,

    I believe honesty to be the best approach so here goes my half pence. I've already in other posts made myself vulnerable so why not take another step if it can help someone else right?

    Doc H, I suffer from chronic PTSD along with bipolar disorder plus other "tags". I have had repeated traumas from around the age of 5 1/2 years of age all the way up until I was about 40-42 years of age. I was abused as a child by many different people physically, mentally, sexually and recently have learned of another episode in which I still can't recall the complete event.

    Some of the traumas were related to "chaotic combat-like events" from a job I had as a young man. I was put into scenarios in which it seemed like time stood still long enough for me to react to the situations I found myself in at this particular job long enough for me to eliminate, neutralize or gain control of whatever volatile situation I found myself in. I can sometimes still smell something that was in the air in one of those moments and flashback. I'm glad I wised up and moved on from that place in my life. I decided college was a much better thing.

    I have had years to reflect and try to understand how I can void myself of these nasty recurring thoughts, negative emotions, constant hyper-arousal, explosive outbursts, nightmares, black-outs yadda yadda...I've tried several different types of behavioral therapy and never really had much success with them. CBT seemed to help more than other psycho-treatments.

    I noticed using prayer (which seems unpopular for some reason these days), meditation and exposure therapy w/meds not to mention forgiveness, self-forgiveness, self-acceptance plus a doctor/client relationship based on honesty and integrity going both ways to have actually helped the most.

    I have used EFT as Giles was speaking of and I have found a lot of help using the LifeFlow program as well. I use these in conjunction with the other methods I listed above in the last paragraph. I can say that I have finally found peace on and off the deeper I go into all of these methods.

    In all naked honesty, I can honestly say I only remember peace from my first conscious remembrances to until about the age I mentioned earlier (5 1/2) and about one year I spent with some hippies but even then with the hippies I was still in turmoil under the surface and just had a little peace, nothing like I feel these days which I can only compare to complete surrender at times...wow, just wow.

    I can let go sometimes now and actually feel too. Strange but nice. I'm not going to play any drama up or try to deceive anyone. I have had so much trauma for so long I actually at one point thought I was soulless because I couldn't feel anything except depression, anger, fear and surprisingly, empathy for others I saw in similar circumstances and jobs. There were years of just being numb also those were the worst. Now I can actually feel emotions like peace, love and sometimes joy, talk about a free buzz, a wonderful thing it is to feel...it only took about 40 years.

    Maybe God designed my destiny to start becoming resolved at this point in my life or maybe it's the methods I've listed. I like to think He has had a hand in pointing me in the right directions causing me to come to the point of Peace at least within myself, with my past and hopefully one day with my survival instinct when I am among other people.

    I still have flashbacks, hyper-vigilance, black-outs and I can pose a very dangerous risk to those around me if the conditions are right or if I'm not highly medicated i.e. my 22 year old son crept up on me (I live alone) and put me in a choke hold, involuntary reactions from years of martial training, extreme hyper-vigilance and startle response once again slowed time down and I had him slammed over my shoulder to the grass, with my hand around his larynx fixing to crush it before I realized what I was doing and before he could struggle to get away. I thank God I didn't black-out and that I looked into his eyes and saw who it was before I looked for more danger. Now he makes sure in a calm manner to let me know he is around and all is fantastic with us. He knows I love him more than anything on this earth and that I would rather die than see him suffer...but and this is a huge thing...I still have concerns about being out in public where someone may do the same thing or even worse and I would black-out to martial training and actually kill or maim someone by misinterpreting their actions.

    The Point Being is


    The fact that I now feel peace at least around my family, some friends and under certain circumstances in which I used to not be able to even function without posing a risk to others and myself. It may sound far-fetched but in all honesty I seriously can be around my family and most friends now without much emotional turbulence AND they can sense it as I have noticed them relax around me. I don't mean to sound like an animal but my life has been pretty screwed up to say the least.

    Being able to be at peace, just that alone is nothing short of a miracle according to one of my therapists not to mention being able to be around others (loved ones, extended family) making noise (being themselves :) ) and be at peace. What a trip. :) My therapist told me bluntly that most people would not be as lucky to go through what I have been through and come out at the point I am now, I believe he's right, they would more than likely never know peace. I cannot even begin to express how thankful I am for the methods and Guidance I have been fortunate enough to be blessed with. I just wish I had known all of this sooner is my only regret.

    As far as what levels of LifeFlow to use, I'm still on 5 sometimes I'll use 4 although I own level 2 something keeps me at 5 and 4. I also get plenty of exercise (to burn off the nervous energy), eat properly, get in the sun and try my best to maintain a positive mindset even when life throws it's worst at me, my mind renewed daily by the Word of God and an attitude of gratitude.

    Still making progress, God Bless you,

    `Tired`
     
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    Levels use...

    Hi Tired,
    I like how you have decided to use the LifeFlow levels on "instinct".

    I am currently on LF7 and I feel a need to even go back to LF10 just "for abit". LifeFlow tracks are totally an amazing array of "brain-body massages" that one can evolve into and revert back to.


    Tired, your courage inspires me. Thanks.


    shine on :) :)

    jim
     
  8. lenapegirl

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    I live with chronic PTSD . This is my first time trying this out . My mind does seem clearer but I also work with a therapist since there is only anxiety medication and not medication to help stop the memories and flasbacks and triggers.
     
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    I understand , I work with a therapist who uses grounding which help me stay in the present as much as possible. I am still at risk for flashbacks and triggers.
    I have worked as a Certified Recovery Peer Specialist in Mental health for Adults here in Florida. I worked 2 years and then had to stop as my symptoms were gradually getting worse but I would like to return to being a peer specialist when we become medicaid billable . I would like to work as a fill in peer specialist so I could get the time off when I needed it.
    There are times when my body is just tired. I was married for six years my husband tried to help me as much as possible and then he passed away in 2005. I rely on prayer and try to stay tied to my church family. I sing in the choir and I plan being on a Recovery Resiliency task force which is a community group made up of peer specialists and consummers.
    I do understand PTSD quite well.
    I feel for those who have the chronic kind.
    Trish
     
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    I live in Florida and God bless you that you have found peace.
    I live with chronic PTSD and run a support group for those who live with it.
    Glad to hear that you are doing better.
    God bless.
    Trish
     
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    Hi

    I have been thru PTSD...I have also suffered severe reaction to medication,
    though I am new to meditation and have been learning to meditate...cuz I do not have health care ins. ....and in the 10 years I have raised my child alone, 3000 miles away from family and friends...it is the calmest I have been...yes...I go thru "moments' but I can not afford to "lose" my mind/sanity due to a mistake with the wrong medication again...it has been 5 years since my hospitalization and we are still healing the Fallout for my now 16 year old...so a life in progress of healing...and yes I get so very tired...but it is just me and her, so I must keep going...with love
    blessings
    berni
     
  12. `Tired`

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    Hi guys,

    Sorry I haven't replied sooner but my machine has been giving me fits and just now getting online again.

    Gus sorry you had a rough start also but I am happy to hear you have pulled through the mess. :) I hope that the peace I feel continues to increase so I can get to the point you're at.

    lenapegirl, it is awesome that you have helped other people and have the ability and knowledge plus a therapist to help you with the PTSD. My therapist recommended meditation, exposure and CBT. I've tried EMDR therapy it helped a little. I've actually tried pretty much everything except hypnosis. It seems to me as if the meditations, prayer, facing my traumas and trying to realize that the traumas are "over and done with" really help me move forward a little at a time and I'm all for progress, of course they still affect me everyday but at least they are getting less disturbing over time or I'm just facing them finally? I don't know for sure how this is all working together but something is working.


    The EFT might be good to try if you can find someone to train you (if you aren't already trained in it). There are several here on the forums such as Giles that are really proficient with it.

    I will also testify that my faith along with meditation seems to ease the PTSD emotions off. After years of hell, tbh, if I can catch 5-30 minutes of peace or longer I'm happy for a week. Each time that a window appears, it's like someone putting a pin in me and letting the pressure out. I'm hoping soon that I can become less on the defensive and more on the accepting side of life. It seems that the enemy basically is between our ears until we make peace with ourselves. That is why I mentioned the forgiveness. I've blamed myself for and lived with shame of things that were beyond my control. I've also done the same thing with things I have done that I did have control over but just didn't care about anymore. I had to forgive myself as deeply as I could, others and even God. Holding unforgiveness was just making things worse not to mention it's physically horrible for our bodies and psyche. There is no room in my life for guilt. There is however a lot of room for thankfulness, it could have been much worse.

    I would like to say that through meditation some repressed memories have actually surfaced and gently eased their way out of my life. Learning how to deal with underlying fear is still a process I'm working on. Having faith though makes having fear unacceptable. The meditation helps me increase my concentration on my faith which gives me larger windows of peace. Just my opinion but I find it well worth the time and money to learn.


    I would be open to suggestions from you if you feel like sharing.


    Berni, I'm am happy you are finding meditation to be helping you heal. I'm am so happy I took the chance on this program and I thankful for all the wonderful people on these forums. :)
     

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