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EFT - Who uses it?

Discussion in 'Mind, Body & Spirit' started by Panthau, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. Panthau

    Panthau Member

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    Since there is no thread about this technique, i thought im making one.

    What do you think about it, who is using it, and if - how (much) do you benefit from it?
    Did you bought the whole course or did you only use the free pdf from their website?

    Ty,
    Pan
     
  2. Edwin

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    I do, every now and then. I downloaded the free PDF course, which is quite good and covers all the basics for "home users" like myself.

    There may be better methods in the paid course, who knows...

    It works quite well for me tho, the tapping :)
     
  3. Panthau

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    Good to know! Im still learning the technique (im a bit lazy).
    Im curios about it :)

    Ah i saw you´re from the netherlands! My Grandmum lives in Rotterdam, i was there in 2007...10hours driving :-/
    I hate the fact that theres no possibility to get vla outside of the netherlands (only this durable vla...beh!) :-(

    Why is there no possibility to send pms? :-/

    Pan
     
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  4. Edwin

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    Ha !

    A grandmother from Rotterdam, wow !

    I have been to Austria a few times myself, I love the country ! ( still get mail from camping Schluga ;-).
    I like the Karnten region very much, but I also love Salzburg :)

    I don't know any way to get vla your way :( sorry.
    It's one of those Dutch things that doesn't seem to be interesting for export.

    Unfortunately it is also very hard to get a good typical Austrian Schnitsel here, in 2001 I got totally hooked on Schnitsemmel, and never wanted to try hamburger again while in Austria.

    The Dutch butcher sais he makes schnitsels too, but they are yucky compared to those enormous wheels of meat that have been pounded into oblivion like the real deal from Austria :p

    And I saw a t-shirt there that I thought was funny, it said: "There are no kangaroo's in Austria" and I bet that shirt was made for Americans ;)

    on-topic, get over your lazyness when it concerns EFT ! it will help you a lot
     
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    I've watched youtube videos but didnt really learn much from them. Where do you find the free PDF?
     
  6. Edwin

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  7. Panthau

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    Haha Wiener Schnitzel...yes, i´d miss that one if i´d live in the netherlands. On the other hand, this country scares me...lol
    I drove there on a street where the street was about 20cm broader then my car, and on both sides were water! AND it was two-way traffic (ok with some isles here and there)! Felt like Alice in Wonderland lol.

    Really a problem, no Wiener Schnitzel for you and no Vla for me. How hard can a life be? :-/

    Hehe those americans...they think we dont even have tv over here lol.

    Ok, to be on topic...i got over my lazyness and did the EFT technique twice on different problems. Ill repeat that the next days, and will give feedback if it helped me (for example, since im a child im afraid of getting blind, and that still affects my daily life).

    Pan
     
  8. GilesC

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    Hiya,

    Yes, I'm trained as an EFT practitioner.
    The free downloadable pdf covers most of the basics for anyone to do EFT, but there's a whole load of stuff that can be learnt from the DVD's available too although some of them do specialise in certain fields. You'll also find that a lot of practitioners no longer use the tapping points on the hand and they find just going from the eyebrow to under the arm is sufficient for most treatments.

    I personally now do Freeway CER in place of EFT. The reason... with EFT you aim to get back to the root cause of the issue as much as possible and work on that. If you can't determine the clients root cause you have to work with as far back as you can get, work on that and see what else comes up, hoping that it will 'unpeel the onion' until you can find the cause. With Freeway CER (which also includes other techniques apart from just a meridian tapping routine) it isn't necessary to try and work out the root cause, you can just tap on a recent occurence of the issue e.g. the last time the person felt the emotion, and also any other issues/emotions that arise whilst tapping on that. When you then go and test previous occurences of events or even the root cause if it is known then you mostly find that the treatment has propagated backwards and dealt with that automatically. So, for me and many other Freeway practitioners who have also done EFT, we find that EFT is a wonderful technique, but Freeway allows us to deal with things more swiftly with our clients. I've had some clients I've treated using both techniques and they all say they prefer doing Freeway over EFT.

    I guess the main advantage of EFT is that Gary Craig has been very generous in offering the basic technique for free on his website and, if people are willing to give it a go, they will find it works. I know I thought it was a crazy thing when I first came across it, but when it got rid of my spider phobia in a single treatment I was convinced about its effectiveness.

    ;)

    Giles
     
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    P.S. If any of you are giving EFT a go and get stuck or want any advice, feel free to ask on here and I'll happily advise if I can.
     
  10. Panthau

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    Hi and thanks for your reply!

    Interesting, im gonna look into that other technique...like holosync, which leaded me to lifeflow *g*

    My first try with EFT didnt seemed to help that much, but im not sure...maybe i did something wrong or so, gonna have to try more.

    Pan
     
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    I am a HUGE fan of EFT. One of my sisters taught it to me; she used it to deal with debilitating back pain that led her to have several surgeries. She's now in much, much better shape. I've learned it in more depth by working with a practitioner locally, borrowing the DVDs from a friend (yay, friends!) and perusing the EFT website fairly regularly.

    Much of the time, I don't do the full set-up but will just tap on whatever crisis I'm having at the moment...it works beautifully to handle anxiety, sadness, fear, and the certainty that if I don't eat a piece of chocolate right now my head will explode! It's great stuff.

    You may be interested in trying the 30-day Personal Peace Procedure. Make a list of everything that bugs you, past and present (my best friend dumped me in fifth grade, my daughters are driving me nuts, etc.). Each day, choose an item from your list and do a few rounds of tapping. Next day, choose a new item. I tend to tap until there's no more energy/angst around the item. Sometimes this happens right away and sometimes it takes longer.

    Another cool thing that I just love doing is tapping when I'm grateful, or tapping when I'm miserable and need a reminder of all the blessings in my life. This method seems to really drive home just how wonderful things really are. It sort of clears the clouds away.

    Good luck!
     
  12. GilesC

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    Hi Pan,

    It may be that you weren't being specific enough. I've come across people before who say they are being specific and then when they tell me about the issue and about what setup statement they are using, we usually manage to refine it somewhat and get better results.

    A classic example is someone suffering from depression using a setup phrase of "Even though I have depression,...". It sounds specific but it isn't. Depression has many facets and is experienced due to many factors by those who suffer from it. In such a case we would look break it down into the individual things that makes the person feel depressed (even if it is a list of many things) and then prioritise the list on which ones feel most important to work on and do them in that order, one at a time, ensuring each is clear before moving onto the next.

    ;)

    Giles
     
  13. Panthau

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    Ok i see. So my fear of not beeing able to see (physically) seems
    to come from my fear to not "have the control over what happens".

    But that would´nt be specific enough, wouldnt it? So i´d to first visit a psychotherapy to find out whats behind my problems and then i can handle it with eft.

    Gotta read a bit about this "CER" ... the way you described it, would spare me the psychodoctor, right? :)

    Pan
     
  14. Edwin

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    What I noticed with EFT is that it oftan heals deeper than what you initially point it towards.

    When you say 'Even tho I have this pain in my upper leg' it might very well be that not only does it take away the pain in your upper leg, but also the sore joint that made you change your walk, causing a sore muscle in your upper leg.

    Same thing with emotions, and that is why it is so important to be as specific as possible. If you feel a fear, name the exact fear. That will release the fear, and make the cause of the fear possible. This could be an old traumatic experience or something. If for some reason it doesn't immediately cure the underlying cause, it will be exposed anyway, and you can tap it away instantly.
     
  15. GilesC

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    Edwin's on the right tracks. ;)

    Not necessarily. We can all be pschotherapists if we want, it's just a fancy job that gets you to talk through your issues over and over again until you get your own realisation about what it is you need to do to solve it. Save your money. :D Most of the time, just writing things down or talking them through with someone else (a good friend for example) is enough to bring up what the real issues are and give you an idea what you need to do to solve them.

    So, you fear losing your eyesight, is that right? And you are feeling the fear now, in the present moment for losing your eyesight when exactly... when you're say 60?

    Ok, so answer this question for yourself...

    If I lose my eyesight at <whatever age you are fearing>, I will/will not ... <your answer>.

    Whatever answer comes out may give you a clearer idea about what the real issue is. Then you can change your setup statement to something more along the lines of "Even though I fear losing my eyesight at <age> and it will cause me to <whatever your answer was about>, ..."

    Perhaps also consider asking yourself the opposite question to see what the answer is...

    If I keep healthy eyesight, I will/will not...<your answer>

    Let me give you a hypothetical example with someone who wants to lose weight, but no diets have ever worked. First they ask themselves...

    If I lose weight and get down to my ideal size I will ...

    and their answer is "... have no excuse to stay at home and I'll have to go out and socialise with my friends, and I know I'm not good at socialising."

    Then we can find that the real cause of the issue is not perhaps as they initially thought, and in fact even though they consciously say they wanted to lose weight they unconsciously have a reason why they shouldn't lose weight, and it's this unconscious reason that is really preventing them from every succeeding at a diet; almost self-sabotage really.

    So, look at the reason from both ways and see which feels like the right answer...

    If I lose my eyesight ... I will (not) ...
    If I keep my eyesight ... I will (not) ...

    Be honest with yourself, it's only you that is going to be effected if you're not. ;)

    LOL. It can certainly cut corners over EFT from my personal experience although you'll most likely have to find a practitioner to treat you unless you purchase the book from the founders website (Home - FreewayCER). As a certified practitioner of it I'm not permitted to give out the technique freely on the internet (which is a shame), but can only demonstrate it to my clients. Maybe one day the founders will make the basic manual free like Gary Craig has done with EFT.

    Perhaps you should stick with EFT for now and see how you get on, but by all means keep your eye on Freeway CER as an alternative option if EFT isn't suiting you.

    Giles
     
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    Hi again,

    Thanks GilesC, for taking the time and trying to help me with my problem.
    This problem persists since im a child and no psychotherapy or anything else
    helped so far. The way i used EFT didnt helped also yet, but im just at the beginning.

    If i complete that sentence, my answer is that i lose any control over whats going on around me and i´d depend on other people. So as i assumed, its a problem with the letting-go, the fear of losing control, and the second one that came to my mind is the confidence in life and the people around me.

    Wow, not bad...gotta try these two things with EFT, though i tried it already with the control problem. Maybe it takes a bit longer for this problem.

    The interesting thing about this sentence is, that i reacted very emotional as i read it / completed it.

    About CER, seems like the DVD to begin is only 49$? That doesnt kill me, maybe ill try it if EFT wont help (i doubt that anyway). Seems also like theres no illegal copy about freewaycer on the inet ;-]

    Thanks again for your help!
    Pan
     
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    Uhm...

    you are going to hate me for this...

    You have control issues. You have trouble letting go of control. You need to feel in control.

    What is control ?

    The past can't be controlled anymore, it is gone. Your control issues are based on the future, on what might happen.

    There is no way to control the future, it hasn't happened yet.

    All there is, all that you have, is the moment in which you live, the Now.
    Is there anything you can do right now to prevent going blind in the future ?
    Is there anything you can do tomorrow to prevent going blind in the future ?

    What control do you really have ? You can't control your future, nor your eye's. Where is that feeling of "having control" coming from ?
    The only thing that you have is your feeling of fear. Since there is nothing you can control aside your fear, you seem to "reward" yourself with thinking that you have control, by controlling the fear of going blind.

    Try to point your next EFT routine on your "feeling in control of fear of going blind". Best is to repeat the entire sentence by reading it back 5 times, and then shorten the message to something like " control over fear " so it is easyer to repeat during the tapping.

    GilesC, please correct me if I am giving the wrong advice, I am a layman
     
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    Edwin

    No one controls the wind or the waves but anyone can learn to sail.
     
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    Nothing to correct Edwin, wise words indeed.

    Pan,

    As Edwin rightly points out, what is "losing control" but a fear of something in the future that hasn't happened yet.

    Let's be more specific still...

    What specifically would you lose control of? It's not eating, it's not the ability to talk or walk etc... so what exactly is it that you fear losing control of? saying "what's going on around me" is very vague. Be specific, even if there are several things, list them all down and prioritise them. What is the biggest thing you feel you would suddenly depend on other people for?

    Then, consider that it's a fear of something in the future and think back to the last time you felt that fear. Where were you? What were you doing? What day was it? What time was it? Is this the earliest time you remember having this fear, if not, can you pinpoint the earliest time and what was happening then? Be as specific as you can... then you may get a setup statement like, for example, "Even though I feared not being able to read when I was 9 years old in Mr Smiths class, ..." or some such thing.

    ;)

    Giles
     
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    We use it here on everything from soup tu nuts
     

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