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A question or two about Lifeflow...

Discussion in 'Meditation Chatter Box' started by Whitefort, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. John

    John Member

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    Thanks Raven.
    I find your post very informative and encouraging to overcome any sceptism.Like you I, also like definitive explanations about how thing work etc and your research and post does this.
    Thanks for taking the effort to share with us
    John
     
  2. pollyanna

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    Fantastic technical spectrographic proof!!!!

    Thanks again Raven,
    I was just looking through an old thread for something I have recently experienced, and found this post of yours. I think it's a great piece of information especially for anyone who is naturally skeptical. Happiness and joy :) :) :)
     
  3. shesgg

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    I've been using the cds for about a week now. 2 days ago, I had the best experience with it, I was aware all the way through but so peaceful and relaxed. I really did envision myself in a raft floating down a winding river...

    The past two days, I've been falling asleep. With the other cds I was using, they said it was ok to fall asleep and that eventually, you would start staying awake.

    Is it really ok? :D
     
  4. pollyanna

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    Hi Shesgg, yes it's absolutely fine. At the moment your body probably needs sleep and you probably have not felt so relaxed for a long time. Just go with the flow and enjoy whatever happens. I have been using LifeFlow for over a year now. In the beginning I used to fall asleep - even now this occasionally happens. I am so much happier and healthier and have experienced many, many benefits over time. I am much more calm and confident than I have ever been. Just keep following Michael's instructions and I wish you happiness and joy on your journey of self discovery :) :) :)
     
  5. shesgg

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    Thanks! I am about to do my meditation for today, I'm glad I saw this.

    As soon as I put the headphones on and breathe, I'm in. It's a great program, really. I'm glad I gave it a try. :)

    Thanks for the good wishes, I'm feeling better already.

    Love/Light

    GG
     
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    Lifeflow is definately superior.

    I've recently begun using Lifeflow and the dynamics in my team is tremendous. It definately is superior to anything I have used before. Your comments confirm what I believe Raven. Very interesting read. NY
     
  7. Vince993

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    Lifeflow 10, the cricket sound

    Can any of the more experienced users tell me if the cricket noise used in #10 is used in the other recordings. I find it very distracting and can not relax with it...........please advise......thanks..don
     
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    Each Lifeflow level has new sounds along with the water.
     
  9. Coenrad Morgan

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    Doubt put to bed

    Hello Raven,

    I am so pleased to have stumbled accross your post, as I work in the Data Communications field, one is conditioned to get touchy about facts, proofs and verification procedures, you learn to think and toss feeling out of the window. The problem is I can feel that LifeFlow10 is working, my mind wasnt totaly convinced, I can now put that to bed from a technical point of view, I am so grateful for your sharing your knowledge in such a technicaly sound way.

    I have friends who play with "do it yourself" entrainment / brain frequency generators, quite frankly I believe this to be potentialy hazardous as your messing with your primary tool in life and who knows what effect it could have.

    I am now able to relax and put my trust in LifeFlow in combination with Discover Meditation, Thank you!
     
  10. Helen66

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    You all talk about having downloaded the LF 10 CD, I found the sample, but not the actual cd. Where do I get that one? I would love to try it. Also, ya'll talk about 40 minutes. The original download's max session was 20 minutes, so where did ya'll get the info for 40 minutes? Help plz, I am new to all this.
    Thanks
     
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    Helen, Lifeflow 10 explained!

    Helen, I have just emailed you more information on Lifeflow 10! :)
     
  12. Whitelight

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    Ive been wanting to try this program for a long time and as I moved to the next CD I was going to loan them to myuncle who has severe depression.

    On the quoted text you mentioned CD10 is free for signing up....where is that? I would love to try it and perhaps even hae m unlce try CD10 before we commited to the program.


    Thanks for teh help.
     
  13. Papp

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    Same here. I would like to know where to download CD 10.. Checked the emails after signing up, the links in each mail, etc.. no mention of it.

    Thank you
     
  14. Michael Mackenzie

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    LifeFlow 10

    Whitelight & Pap,

    You can download the free sample of LifeFlow 10 by clicking the link below:

    LifeFlow Sample - Click Here

    Look out for the highlighted text that says "Free Sample".

    Michael
     
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    Spectograph analysis

    Hi Rave,

    Thanks for the very enlightening post! I have a question for you. Since its a technical question, you would probably be the best person to answer it.

    As we use isochronic, monoaural and binaural entrainments on LF tracks, what effect would it have on the mind if we simultaneously play the LF track ( 1 track) through headphones and speakers? Some people have commented that since their may a microsecond lag time between the nervous system getting the binaurals and the body getting the isochronics and Monaurals a little latter, that this difference creates some problem if we were to listen to the track simultaneously via headphones and speakers.

    I, like you perhaps, dont like wasting time and maximising the effects I get with LF. So, it seems to me that if we can do headphones and speakers simutaneouls then this would be a win/win. Then again perhaps this would diminish the effect due to the lag time between speakers and headphones.

    What do you think?

    Sincerely,

    drwill
     
  16. sogno

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    :D
    Hi Pollyanna,

    You stated that the scientific research' is also really informative reading. Can you direct me to some links as I haven't been able to find any scientific research on lifeflow2.0, although I must confess that I have just started on CD10 and totally love the feeling:D

    I also played the Optimal Learning CD, for the fist time today and I felt a very hot but pleasant feeling around my hips and all in between, somehow, I saw my laptop next to me (although it was in a different room) and saw grey smoke (now that I think about it is rather odd) coming out, not from my body, but adjacent to my right hip, and at that point I opened my eyes, just in case!

    It would be interesting to read some scientific foundings about this particular programe, especially as some of my friend do not believe anything unless it has been scientifically researched.

    Thank you for all your encouragements

    Sogno
     
  17. DoCoach

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    To Raven

    Hello Raven,

    I just wanted to confirm that it was a very good thing to put your feedback regarding brainwaves on the homepage. I was literally about to buy the product from Holosync, my mind was made up: I just wanted to check their web site once again on the Internet before buying it, so I typed their name on google.
    My credit card was next to me on the table but as I went through the list of web sites on the google page, I thought that it could be good to read a review of the product before buying it, so I clicked on the page that was comparing Life Flow and Holosync and I read your feedback.
    It was so complete, so clear, so articulate and you sounded like you really knew what you were talking about that it couldn't be some sales fluff. It sounded very real. It absolutely convinced me and thanks to you project Meditation sold another Life Flow product that day! :)

    I'm very happy regarding my choice about Project Meditation, the tracks are great and we get so many downloads that my head is spinning. Besides, I really love the fact that there is a little community where we can talk, that's pretty nice.

    I am going to put a link of Project Meditation on my own coaching web site, as I think that it could be a great tool for my clients. Not sure all of them will be able to understand the home page (they speak French) but for those who do, it is worth a shot.

    Anyway, thank you so much for your technical feedback Raven, it was very nice of you to give all this information and your knowledge along with the sincerity of your words convinced me.
    And I am sure that I am not the only one.
    Michael should think about giving a free Cd perhaps .. just a thought ;)

    Kind regards,

    Dominique
     
  18. JD

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    compressed ultra low freqency

    5hz and other low frequencies.
    I'm curious about the fact on how all that all ultra low frequensies are being reproduced. As far as I now, humans are only able to hear frequencies of above 20Hz. below are subject to feel only. Right?
    All audio equipment specially headphones and speakers do perform very sub-linear and perform very poor or not at all at these frequencies.
    LifeForm instructions told me to play as is... The first thing I noticed was a very deep (pretty loud) deep hum. I do have an high end audio-system that is able to produce deep tones, but don't know anything about the linearity. What is the right amount these tones... Linearity is pretty much a non defined variable in this matter.

    Other: Can ultra low frequency be compressed at all. What's the frequency range of mp3? 0-xxKhz depending on the bitrate?
    In case of binaural beats at low levels... Is it still present in compressed format or completely masked?

    A few comments would be appreciated. (raven?)
     
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    I was wanting to ask about listening to the CD 10. I noticed that you said to be off medications 24 hours before listening to it. Well my question is that I am taking antidepressants and was wondering does that qualify? Because as you know , you cannot just stop taking those. Thanks.
     
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    Paul, I'll quote the introductory text from the free "Discover Meditation" download. It answers your question and some you didn't ask. :)
    "If you were taking medication for an illness and you were going to begin a
    physical exercise program it would be advisable to consult your doctor. The same applies with meditation. If you are taking medication for an illness check with your doctor that it is O.K. for you to go ahead with meditation at this point in your life.

    You need to have an alert mind to enable you to enjoy this new experience so you need to be free of alcohol or non prescribed drugs for at least 24 hours.

    Wait 2 hours after a full meal or 1 hour after a snack or caffeine drink before
    meditating.

    If you smoke, it is better to wait 30 minutes before meditating.
    "

    In other words, you should continue taking your prescription drugs, but you should consult your doctor. Meditation, and certainly meditation with brainwave entrainment, will gradually alter your brain. Over time it will normally stabilize mood on a higher level, but the time this takes is very individual. Always consult your doctor before you change your use of prescribed medication of any kind!
     

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