A Question about Entrainment for the Experts!

Discussion in 'Science of Meditation' started by Bhavya, Oct 20, 2008.

  1. askmenow

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    how long in one session

    hi all, was just wondering how long is it recommended to listen to the meditations in one sitting . i listen while i catch the train too work ,1 1/2 hours then the same time homewards and will often use the meditations to go to sleep at night . . i have meditated for many years and also did 2 levels of holosync [not as good as lifeflow, methinks ] and enjoy the experience ...i guess my question is, is too many repeat sessions in one sitting ok or am i in danger of frying my brain...lol regards justin
     
  2. Edwin

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    Yes Askmenow, in fact, your brain may have started to fry allready. You should smell chicken right about now allready :D

    The only "danger" of overmeditating is that there may be too much emotions or memories released at once. If this is not the case with you, you are fine :)
     
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    pleased to be with your group.

    I am amazed that I have reached this website, I asked google for breathing excercises for meditation and I found all this info, thankyou spirit.:) I seem to have found likeminded people and knowledegable which i am certain to benefit. Can I introduce myself as a spiritual person and therefore a strong believer in our own spirits and hence the spirit has a life forever. thankyou for listening.
     
  4. askmenow

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    thanks edwin, i thought as much. i would also like to comment on the fact that i seem to be dreaming alot more [or remembering that i have dreamt ] and that these are new dreams for me ...all quite enjoyable [no nightmares ] as yet .was just wondering if this was a common side affect . once again thanking you for your time justin
     
  5. Flavia

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    I will begin LifeFlow 7 this week.I have read some info about theta waves, but can you explain it better? I think the info that's in the site is not very sound... I thimk we need more info about this type of brain wave.
     
  6. Grey

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    theta waves run from about 4 hertz up to about 8 hertz. they are good for deeper states of meditation than alpha waves. could you please specify what information you are looking for?
     
  7. Flavia

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    theta waves run from about 4 hertz up to about 8 hertz. they are good for deeper states of meditation than alpha waves. could you please specify what information you are looking for?

    Dear friend,
    I don't know what to expect (?) from these forms of brain waves: what kind of experience they provoke? do we have physical reactions too, as I had in Lifeflow9? to what we can compare this new experience? I don't know if I made myself more clear... maybe because it's hard to explain my - I think - fears of the unknown...
     
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    an abundance of love

    Yes, the people on here are really loving and honest in their responses to others. I too feel I have been attracted to an amazing forum of people who enlighten me with every visit! It is so good to find people on the same path as you, looking at the 'truth', trying to get there and trying to help others on their quest too. Why aren't there more sites like this, that are so giving, isn't this what human nature is truly about? Those who have found are passing it on to others, those that are learning are sharing their experiences and asking questions, usually to receive several answers, and then debates, but serious debates that are intelligent and inciteful. Yes, I think we have found some like-minded people...

    Happy 2009! :)

    Here's to a more intelligent, more spirited 2009, with everyone's help on here, you are a brilliant bunch of people with an abundance of love which radiates out...what more could we all hope for in 2009, an abundance of love to all of you xxx :) :) :)
     
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  9. Grey

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    if you are using these tracks for meditation you should have some kind of meditation experience. that will be different from person to person. just having theta or alpha or delta waves all by itself is not the "experience". the experience is what you are doing or trying to do while those brainwave states are in play. my own opinion is people make far too much out of just having certain brainwaves. you experience alpha, theta and delta brainwaves many times every single day as you go through the stages of sleep. they do not produce frightening or unsettling responses in you at that time so why would they produce them just because you encourage them to appear with an entrainment track? i think your reactions come more from the activity you are pursuing rather than from the brainwaves that are going on. as others have suggested, meditation brings up repressed feelings. using entrainment to promote better meditation might speed up the release of buried thoughts and feelings but the brainwaves alone or the entrainment track itself is probably not the source of the feelings. it just quickens their release.
     
  10. Flavia

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    Thank you, Grey, for your answer... After I read it, I thought a lot, and I agree with you: buried thoughts and feelings are being released. But, just with this - I noticed - I am certainly more creative, writing a lot for my work (and it's not easy stuff, writing and having the texts accepted for publication ...), more calm less stressed. And with an infinite patience with my mother,who has Alzheimer. Thanks again!
     
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    i was also wondering if maybe you spent a little more time with each level it might give your body and mind time to more completely adjust to the changes that are taking place. i do not know how quickly you progress from level to level. for me it has varied a little bit but i have not found changing faster than every 60 days is necessary. i try to have two shorter meditation sessions each day. the first one i use a life flow level that i have already completed. the second one i use the track i am currently working on. maybe something like that would ease your adjustment.
     
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    Grey,

    your suggestions are wonderful! I'll follow them: listen to lifeflow 8 for more 15 days - or beyond. Not to hurry is better; then I will be able to enjoy the voyage, too...
    And then, I'll try your second idea: listen to level 8, and to level 7 the same day ( one in the morning, and the other at night, perhaps) when my schedule permits... I can make an experiment. Or simply, give myself the necessary time to go ahead to level 7 and beyond...
    Thanks again!
     
  13. bashmaki

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    I listened to #7 for 60 days before I went to #6.

    gus
     
  14. Flavia

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    I think that each level demands more on us. Maybe the dimension of reorganizations of the brain is more demanding :)...
     
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    I found that #7 made me feel angry has anyone else felt that??
     
  16. pollyanna

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    Hi there Leanne,

    like a lot of people in this thread, I actually loved LF7 from the very beginning, however, like yourself, there will have been others who may have felt similar to you.

    Try to remember, when any negative emotion arises as you meditate to any of the LF series, it is a wonderful opportunity for you to simply observe the sensation and allow it to dissipate (usually forever) :)

    I wish you much peace and joy :) :) :)
     
  17. Edwin

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    Hi Leanne,

    I agree with Pollyanna.
    At first sight it would seem logical to link LifeFlow 7 with anger, 1 + 1 = 2 right ?
    You listen to LifeFlow 7 + feel anger = LifeFlow causes anger.

    However, if LifeFlow 7 could do that, cause anger in people, more people would get that reaction. And actually LF7 has been voted as the best LF track of all by most meditators in this forum.

    So, the anger must have a different cause. It could be that you have this reaction due to sounds in LF7 that you associate with a feeling of anger, for instance rain, thunder, a bird chirping, the windchime...
    Or the entrainment with LF7 is creating a neural pathway through some old forgotten memory or unprocessed emotion that suddenly bubbles up.

    This is actually a very special occurrance for you, as you get the chance to investigate the root of your anger. Obviously, LF7 may not be the cause, but it can be the trigger that (re)surfaced the emotion.

    First step to take the next time you feel anger, is to accept it.
    Someone, I think it was Pollyanna once posted a poem by Rumi, "The Guesthouse":

    The Guest House -- by Rumi

    This being human is a guest house
    Every morning a new arrival.
    A joy, a depression, a meanness,
    some momentary awareness comes
    as an unexpected visitor.
    Welcome and entertain them all!
    Even if they are a crowd of sorrows,
    who violently sweep your house
    empty of its furniture,
    still treat each guest honorably.
    He may be clearing you out for some new delight.
    The dark thought, the shame, the malice,
    meet them at the door laughing,
    and invite them in.
    Be grateful for whoever comes,
    because each has been sent
    as a guide from beyond.

    Treat your anger as such, and be amazed at the results :)
     
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    Hi ,
    If I have not regularly used LF 10 ( I just received 8) should I go back and use it for a month then LF 9 and so On ?
    Thanks
     
  19. KeithP

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    Slow and Steady Wins the Race

    There really is no need to rush.

    It is always a temptation to think that as you move through the levels you are accelerating your progress by going onto more powerful levels of entrainment.

    This is not the case however as we need to allow time for the process to work. It is in fact very much a case of "slow and steady wins the race."

    So my advice would be to slow down. Explore this site and its Community Forum where you will find an abundance of wisdom and good practice. If you are not presently using a meditation technique you may obtain free instruction on Mantra Meditation from this site.

    Just take things steady.

    Best wishes,

    Keith
     

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