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Old August 7th, 2010, 11:30   #1 (permalink)
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I am going out of my mind. Have been to doctor numerous times about my stomache ulcer, I have this gnawing feeling and they keep giving me tablets which do absolutely nothing. They tell me that I am too stressed. I dont feel stressed and am not working so have nothing to stress about. I am wondering if meditation would help with this or at least make me cope better. I am not handling how I am feeling at the moment, always sick and its really getting me down, any advice is greatly appreciated, john
 
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Old August 7th, 2010, 16:10   #2 (permalink)
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Remember, "meditation is not medication". Neither Project Meditation nor other meditation sites are authorized to make medical claims, and it is recommended that you follow the advice of your doctors even if you meditate. The effects of meditation build up over time, so you may want to practice regularly for a couple months at least before you take the matter up with your doctor again.

As regards ulcer, you and your doctor should be aware that this usually comes from a bacterial infection, Helicobacter Pylori.
Helicobacter pylori - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Most people with the bacterium do not developed symptoms unless their immune system is weakened, typically from stress. Over time, meditation will normally reduce stress levels and strengthen the immune system. However, depending on your genes, you may have a specific weakness to the bacterium independent of your stress level. So, there is no way to guarantee that meditation with or without LifeFlow will cure your illness. On the other hand, there are many other benefits of meditation, so regardless of its effect on your ulcer, it is time well spent. You may want to read some of the "success story" forum for an idea of what benefits common people experience.
 
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Old August 7th, 2010, 20:05   #3 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by hugbear View Post
I am going out of my mind. Have been to doctor numerous times about my stomache ulcer, I have this gnawing feeling and they keep giving me tablets which do absolutely nothing. They tell me that I am too stressed. I dont feel stressed and am not working so have nothing to stress about. I am wondering if meditation would help with this or at least make me cope better. I am not handling how I am feeling at the moment, always sick and its really getting me down, any advice is greatly appreciated, john
Hugbear,

I'm not sure if you recognize the irony in your post above:

"I am going out of my mind," followed by "I don't feel stressed and am not working so have nothing to stress about."

I do believe "going out of my mind" is an excellent synonym for "I am stressed."

Life is full of stresses for everyone with a pulse, even when nothing in particular stands out to us. Sometimes we've been living in a state of perpetual stress for such a prolonged period we can't even appreciate that fact any more. You say you have nothing to stress about because you're not working. I can think of millions of people not working at the moment who are extremely stressed over that very fact. Unemployment is stressful.

Perhaps you are not working because your financial needs are met already by a parent or a spouse, so you don't have to work out of economic necessity. We humans are creatures born to work. It's in our nature to want to contribute and produce something, whether that's for monetary compensation or just for the sense of having given of ourselves and made a difference. When we coast in our lives and contribute nothing, for most of us, that's stressful. It's a violation of our nature and if done for long enough it wears on our sense of self-worth and self-esteem. That's really stressful.

Point being, just because you are not working doesn't necessarily mean that causes you no stress. It can be a source of stress as noted above for varying reasons.

The very fact that you have these ulcers has got to be stressful. The inability of your physicians so far to successfully treat them must also be frustrating and therefore stressful. You personality type and, as Itlandm pointed out, even your genetic propensities may also play a role in turning a whole host of minor stressors into a force strong enough to act as a catalyst for ulcers.

If I might make a suggestion, seek out a naturopathic physician or even an osteopathic physician and let them examine and consult with you. Chronic conditions, such as your ulcers, are usually the result of a combination of factors. Genetics, personality, diet, lifestyle, immunological, psychological...all these things and more. There is no pill that can address them all, and clearly the advice you've been given so far to "unstress" yourself has not been sufficiently clear or detailed enough for you to successfully carry it out.

Naturophatic physicians and, to some degree, osteopathic doctors, typically approach a chronic problem from a broader perspective. In today's modern health care system, especially in the US, most doctors are able to spend on average about 6 minutes of time during a typical office visit with each patient. The system in which they work requires them to make a rapid assessment, recommend a treatment, and move on to the next patient. That usually means a prescription of some kind, as you've already experienced. A naturopathic physician is more likely to spend a significant amount of time with you, trying to get a feel for your overall situation. He or she will seek to identify the factors contributing to your chronic condition and then to chart a course towards correcting those root causes such that the problem is resolved. This is a very different approach. They won't look to suppress symptoms so much as to correct contributing causes.

I strongly encourage you to seek out this second type of treatment. I'm not suggesting you toss out your regular doctor. You want to cover as many angles as possible in resolving this, and that includes your regular physician. I'm merely saying that standard, allopathic medical treatment is not the only form of treatment, and for some types of chronic problems it may not even be the best type of treatment. If you haven't gotten the results from it that you were looking for so far, give the alternative a try. It may produce better results for you.
 
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Old August 8th, 2010, 12:12   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by hugbear View Post
I am going out of my mind. Have been to doctor numerous times about my stomache ulcer, I have this gnawing feeling and they keep giving me tablets which do absolutely nothing. They tell me that I am too stressed. I dont feel stressed and am not working so have nothing to stress about. I am wondering if meditation would help with this or at least make me cope better. I am not handling how I am feeling at the moment, always sick and its really getting me down, any advice is greatly appreciated, john
Not working does not equate to not feeling stressed. Many people who don't work do feel stressed because they do want to work and have other worries if they are unable to e.g. money worries, etc. Just because you don't percieve yourself as being stressed doesn't mean that you aren't. The mind does a wonderful job of covering up the stress (you can read that as 'denial' if you like, and I mean no offence by that), and you can usually tell this sort of covering up by the contradictions you make for yourself as you have done above.

Certainly, meditation can help to relax and help you to get parts of your life back in order, and it can even help on a physical level as well, if you consider the principle, so eloquently put by the originator of EFT... "The cause of all negative emotions is a disruption of the body's energy system", where physical issues are symptomatic of emotional issues. Meditation, and also other energy therapies such as EFT, can help to balance and realign the energy system and help to clear emotional, mental and physical issues.

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Remember, "meditation is not medication". Neither Project Meditation nor other meditation sites are authorized to make medical claims, and it is recommended that you follow the advice of your doctors even if you meditate.
Completely agree.

As regards ulcer, you and your doctor should be aware that this usually comes from a bacterial infection, Helicobacter Pylori.
Helicobacter pylori - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Another common cause, in people susceptible to stomach ulcers, is ibuprofen tablets (or other brands containing the same). It is not recommended to take such painkillers if you have suffered from in the past, or are suffering from stomach ulcers. Other painkillers are available such as paracetamol and you should speak with your doctor if you are taking ibuprofen at all and suffering from stomach ulcers, especially if the doctor has prescribed the ibuprofen.

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