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meidam · February 10th, 2009, 18:53

Sogno,

Thanks for your message. What you said really resonated with me. I too have struggled with depression and have been lacking the motivation to meditate even with Lifeflow. Your post helped me stop being so hard on myself and reminded me of the joys of using lifeflow

`Tired` · February 12th, 2009, 22:18

Flavia, I think I would be changing my nick to Finally Learning to Live, perhaps something shorter but along those lines.

Sogno, getting some sleep is amazing after many years of not getting proper rest. I can relax deeply at times now even with chronic PTSD/bipolar mix. That's a real shocker! I remember at one point I went 2 months and almost a week getting about 3 hours sleep every other day or every three days due to bipolar disorder...I felt like I would die but now I believe I have the tools to not have to worry about that misery again

The peace and relaxation are a blessing without a doubt. I'm very thankful I got off my cheap butt and took a chance. Thank you for sharing as well, much peace and happiness to you.

Thank you again folks and thank you Michael!

sogno · February 18th, 2009, 01:42

Originally Posted by meidam

Sogno,

Thanks for your message. What you said really resonated with me. I too have struggled with depression and have been lacking the motivation to meditate even with Lifeflow. Your post helped me stop being so hard on myself and reminded me of the joys of using lifeflow

Meidam,

Pleased to help! Don't be hard on yourself, accept yourself as you are. This is the first step to healing your life. Listen to lifeflow in bed if you have to, just as you get ready to end your day. That does not require much efforts and is that relaxing. We need to keep encouraging eachother. You are not alone!

Sogno

sogno · February 18th, 2009, 01:59

[quote=`Tired`;7157]Flavia, I think I would be changing my nick to Finally Learning to Live, perhaps something shorter but along those lines.

Sogno, getting some sleep is amazing after many years of not getting proper rest. I can relax deeply at times now even with chronic PTSD/bipolar mix. That's a real shocker! I remember at one point I went 2 months and almost a week getting about 3 hours sleep every other day or every three days due to bipolar disorder...I felt like I would die but now I believe I have the tools to not have to worry about that misery again

The peace and relaxation are a blessing without a doubt. I'm very thankful I got off my cheap butt and took a chance. Thank you for sharing as well, much peace and happiness to you.

Hey Finally Learning to Live

I am so pleased to know you are feeling better. I felt a bit emotional reading your post. Well done for taking the initiative to do something about it. I know that taking action is the HARDEST part....but hey...u DONE it

(and me).

I am reading this book at the moment "The Nature of Personal Reality" A Seth Book by Jane Roberts. This book shows how it is 'all mind made' and how we can reshape our reality. I find it particularly refreshing during the heaviest hours, when I get that feeling of sadness and lostness. The link below provides extract of this book

*Quotes From The Nature of Personal Reality « Breathing

I hope you enjoy.

P.S. I listen to 'Creative Flows' and/or 'Optimal Learning' on my way to work. My working day seems to be much more enjoyable and productive. I also listen to them when I feel lack of confidence and I am on my way out to meet friends....by the time I reach my destination, I am full of confidence and full of fun.

Lots of love

Alison88 · February 23rd, 2009, 13:22

Hi there

The quotes from the Nature of Personal Reality are great. Thanks very much for sharing with us.

Alison x

`Tired` · February 28th, 2009, 07:35

Hi again folks,

Hi Sogno,

I believe you're correct in that taking the first step is the hardest step. I couldn't be happier about taking a chance on this program tbh. After so many promises from other programs only to be let down I was apprehensive to say the least about trying yet another program. I will say I am exceedingly pleased above and beyond what I expected especially after so many let downs with other programs.

I'm glad you benefit as well from the LifeFlow program. It has proven to be a powerful tool hasn't it?

I've found sometimes when things look so dark that there appears to be no end to personal misery, God sees our efforts and smiles on those efforts so broadly and deeply that we know without doubt at all that we have truly been blessed. Anything worth having is worth working for. I think if we can just get a toe-hold on that kind of thinking/awareness (like in your link) and learn how to focus on it using Lifeflow or in conjunction with prayer and Lifeflow at the same time that we can only continue to grow in a positive direction. I know I'm all for that!

Another thing I have learned is that even when I think I am relaxed, sometimes I am hanging onto stress somewhere physically in my body from years and years of exposure to trauma. Once traumatized chronically, everyday is as stressful as the day the actual trauma happened...supposedly this is true according to what the experts have told me. Kinda like the movie Groundhog's Day but on an emotional and mental level. The good news is that I have became aware of this stress in areas of my body now and I am learning how to release it. By releasing it I am forced to deal with it, well, not forced but I feel up to the challenge now to get this mess out of the way once and for all so I can finally live again. Finally. I thought I was sleeping well before, now it's on a whole new level. My body stays very, very tired but it's trying to recuperate from 40 years of hell whenever I relax.

Praise God I have prayed for this to happen for a long, long, long, time.

That was an interesting read you linked to, thanks for sharing.

Peace and God Bless

AntonHansen · March 19th, 2009, 18:11

I am pleased to hear that lifeflow and meditation have worked so well with you

Thanks for sharing

enlighteneduk · March 29th, 2009, 02:17

Hi Tired,

I am new to Lifeflow, but am so far very impressed with the testimonials and the feedback on the forum. But what is significant is that I sent the URL and sample to my brother who is also bi polar, as I was sure this will help him. He lives in the Caribbean, in the most idyllic of places, but is in deepest depression at the moment, having been in a manic stage for almost all of last year.

I hope I can persuade him to take Lifeflow on board, and will report back if he does and it is of help.

Heather

`Tired` · May 13th, 2009, 09:11

Hi,

According to what I have read, learned from other bipolar people and from health care specialists is that stress is one of the main contributors to inducing "episodes", depressive, hypo or manic. We may not be able to understand why we're stressed, for that matter we may not even know that we are stressed but we need to find ways to relieve it. Some great ways to relieve stress are through deep relaxation/meditation, exercise, a regularly balanced diet on a regular schedule and with some effort towards a positive attitude to move away from negativity and towards thankfulness plus personally for me my faith in God. Sunlight, by the way is also very good for the disorder so long as you don't get too much which can also cause mania...strange but true...plus proper hydration.

I've found that by meditating, that I have "released" or become aware of some things that have been repressed....one was a real shocker. If it had of just been forced out of me it could have been bad. I honestly had no recollection at all of it until a week or two ago. It's just one of the many things that have came to the surface since I've been using Lifeflow program.

The awesome thing is that with the program, as I'm sure you've read, relaxation/insight/health starts to happen. Hypo-mania and mania can be caused by a lack of sleep thanks to racing thoughts, with stress added on top it just becomes miserable and leads to more negativity in a vicious cycle. Thankfully I have been able to relax and get to sleep a lot better than I used to be able to. It's really neat actually, I can even think a lot more clearly than I have been able to in many years.

I'm very thankful for the things I have learned here and for being able to use this in conjunction with my walk with God. I pray this will help your brother, he can use it as he tries to drift off to sleep, it's possible it might actually aid him into falling asleep which is a God send. Nothing like wanting to sleep but having a mind that is unwilling to shut-up long enough to allow it to happen.

Please understand that mania is hell. If he has been manic for an entire year I feel deeply saddened for him, I went for 10 months once and never want to go there again. A week is bad enough...

It is great that he has your support though as that can be a key "ingredient" to recovery. The depression afterward mania can be indescribably horrible to put it mildly, the good thing about the depression though is it is a sign of hopefully a rise to a more stable footing. In other words things can only go up when you are so far down (and it will go up). I would like to see him use this program because I believe by training the mind, body and spirit we can develop a lot more control over our lives and perhaps to a point where we can actually have a lot higher quality of life regardless of our medical conditions. It may not completely eliminate things but if it could even just cut it in half, that would be a drastic improvement? I do believe it can get better than that though with commitment. Our mind can be a battlefield or a paradise, sometimes we have to fight for paradise but once a person has had a taste of it...at least personally, I will fight at the drop of the first sign of symptoms to maintain this new glimpse of life.

My apologies for the delay in my reply I have been really busy. Heather, you are an excellent sibling, your brother is very fortunate.

God Bless you both!

pollyanna · May 13th, 2009, 16:45

Hi there Tired and Sogno, I have just become aware of the latter part of this thread and am deeply touched with your stories.

You are true inspirations - may God bless you both

I love and admire your spirits and the courage, determination and positive attitudes you so openly display.

I am so pleased that you are gaining tremendous benefits with LifeFlow Meditation and releasing deep supressed emotions.

In my book you are legends and I wish you an abundance of peace and joy on your continuing journey