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Old March 14th, 2011, 11:48   #1 (permalink)
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Default Loving Kindness to Japan

May the spirit of loving kindness visit in abundance to all touched by the events in Japan and everywhere where pain and suffering visits.

May the presence of the collective consciousness envelope those in need in Love and compassion.

May the Grace that eminates from the stillness heal.

May the many thousands of Pilgrims of Silence and Stillness open the Heavens through their faithful devotion to Life and Living in the present moment.

Resting in the Grace and Love of Now...

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Old March 14th, 2011, 12:35   #2 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by olmate View Post
May the spirit of loving kindness visit in abundance to all touched by the events in Japan and everywhere where pain and suffering visits.

May the presence of the collective consciousness envelope those in need in Love and compassion.

May the Grace that eminates from the stillness heal.

May the many thousands of Pilgrims of Silence and Stillness open the Heavens through their faithful devotion to Life and Living in the present moment.

Resting in the Grace and Love of Now...

Olmate
Once again Olmate your compassion shines so powerfully. Peace Brother

So much loving kindness from New Zealand, we watched in horror as this extraordinary event unfolded.

In the words of Shantideva:

May I be a guard for those who need protection
A guide for those on the path
A boat, a raft, a bridge for those who wish to cross the flood
May I be a lamp in the darkness
A resting place for the weary
A healing medicine for all who are sick
A vase of plenty, a tree of miracles
And for the boundless multitudes of living beings
May I bring sustenance and awakening
Enduring like the earth and sky
Until all beings are freed from sorrow
And all are awakened.
 
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Old March 14th, 2011, 21:44   #3 (permalink)
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In times of human tragedy, I remember that "suffering" is purely created in the mind. While of course, I do not wish pain or destruction of any sort, and want nothing but peace for those affected, is this not the perfect time to remember how "life is the dancer, and we are the dance?"
 
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Old March 14th, 2011, 23:33   #4 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MetaCognition View Post
In times of human tragedy, I remember that "suffering" is purely created in the mind. While of course, I do not wish pain or destruction of any sort, and want nothing but peace for those affected, is this not the perfect time to remember how "life is the dancer, and we are the dance?"
In that case, when suffering isn't distracting us anymore, we can direct all our attention towards fixing the problem. Just because the suffering ends, doesn't mean we should ignore the circumstances.
 
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Old March 15th, 2011, 01:48   #5 (permalink)
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For all those people in Japan who do not meditate and those who do and who are overwhelmed by bereavement, fear, hunger, cold and loss I join in sending loving kindness. May community spirit warm them and all our donations feed them
 
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Old March 15th, 2011, 02:54   #6 (permalink)
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In that case, when suffering isn't distracting us anymore, we can direct all our attention towards fixing the problem. Just because the suffering ends, doesn't mean we should ignore the circumstances.
I apologize if my post came off as saying "don't do anything." I was simply commenting on the mass reaction to the event as a tragedy, rather than as a situation that must be dealt with.

Since every thing is connected, I find it impossible to believe that this event happened for "no reason" (even if that reason is to cause human suffering in order to further unite consciousness itself). I just find that everywhere I go, everyone around me has labeled the event as "terrible" and "horrific" instead of using this event as a catalyst for remembering just how small the human perceptual field of reality is and how any control we think we have, is truly an illusion.

I find it hard to put into words actually, because I care deeply about the people that were harmed, as I see no true boundary between "them" and "me." I see most (not on this site, but in my physical reality)using this event as a way to strengthen their egos and identify even more with the material, fading world, and that is at the core of what I am trying (poorly I admit) to convey with these words.
 
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Old March 15th, 2011, 05:02   #7 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by MetaCognition View Post
... I just find that everywhere I go, everyone around me has labeled the event as "terrible" and "horrific" instead of using this event as a catalyst for remembering just how small the human perceptual field of reality is and how any control we think we have, is truly an illusion....
Hi, Meta. I appreciate that you are trying hard to place this event in a perspective that makes sense with your practice.

First, let me say that I don't claim to be enlightened. But here's my take. Regarding the human and environmental devastation from the quake and tsunami, it seems obvious to me that that devastation is both terrible and horrific. I would have a hard time trusting any spiritual approach that denied that. Yes, we can assent to a much bigger, subtler picture that gives rise to and ultimately survives this physical life. Perhaps that big picture is "more real" than this fleeting planetary phenomenon; that's fine. But this planet IS real (small "r" if you wish), and the beings on it are sentient, and so life events can cause real suffering.

I understand meditation to be an important tool in not "suffering over one's suffering," as a wise friend once said to me. And certainly it is a tool in helping us find a depth of compassion so that we can respond meaningfully to natural and humanly created disasters. I don't think that we have to presume to have all the answers or to be in control, in order to respond with loving-kindness and attempt to be in right-relationship.

Warm regards, Margaret
 
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Originally Posted by MetaCognition View Post
I apologize if my post came off as saying "don't do anything." I was simply commenting on the mass reaction to the event as a tragedy, rather than as a situation that must be dealt with.

Since every thing is connected, I find it impossible to believe that this event happened for "no reason" (even if that reason is to cause human suffering in order to further unite consciousness itself). I just find that everywhere I go, everyone around me has labeled the event as "terrible" and "horrific" instead of using this event as a catalyst for remembering just how small the human perceptual field of reality is and how any control we think we have, is truly an illusion.

I find it hard to put into words actually, because I care deeply about the people that were harmed, as I see no true boundary between "them" and "me." I see most (not on this site, but in my physical reality)using this event as a way to strengthen their egos and identify even more with the material, fading world, and that is at the core of what I am trying (poorly I admit) to convey with these words.
Ahh the boldness of youth
You have to remember non-dualist concepts are only that. You mention everyone around you labelling the event as "terrible" and "horrific" this indicates that you see/think yourself as separate from their life. Even though you indicate you have seen through separation. You need to move beyond the extremes such as essentialism vís nihilism, then a complete openness to life arises allowing you to share and be open to all


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Hi, Meta. I appreciate that you are trying hard to place this event in a perspective that makes sense with your practice.

First, let me say that I don't claim to be enlightened. But here's my take. Regarding the human and environmental devastation from the quake and tsunami, it seems obvious to me that that devastation is both terrible and horrific. I would have a hard time trusting any spiritual approach that denied that. Yes, we can assent to a much bigger, subtler picture that gives rise to and ultimately survives this physical life. Perhaps that big picture is "more real" than this fleeting planetary phenomenon; that's fine. But this planet IS real (small "r" if you wish), and the beings on it are sentient, and so life events can cause real suffering.

I understand meditation to be an important tool in not "suffering over one's suffering," as a wise friend once said to me. And certainly it is a tool in helping us find a depth of compassion so that we can respond meaningfully to natural and humanly created disasters. I don't think that we have to presume to have all the answers or to be in control, in order to respond with loving-kindness and attempt to be in right-relationship.

Warm regards, Margaret
very nice Margaret
 
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Ahh the boldness of youth
You have to remember non-dualist concepts are only that. You mention everyone around you labelling the event as "terrible" and "horrific" this indicates that you see/think yourself as separate from their life. Even though you indicate you have seen through separation. You need to move beyond the extremes such as essentialism vís nihilism, then a complete openness to life arises allowing you to share and be open to all


Peace
Hahaha, this is the 2nd time you've pointed this out to me. I find myself sometimes slipping into non-dualist conceptual thought and acting like that is not an egoic (another concept, I am aware) formation. I have to admit, as I read over my own response, I intuitively responded to the word "they" and a feeling of embarassment overcame me I knew, without fully knowing, that I had made a "mental error" and my ego was trying to repair it's image through logistical and conceptual thought.

Nevertheless, I appreciate calling me out, because I needed it. My ego tries to sometimes claim it is "better" than others because I am more spiritual or some other nonsense, but each time it happens I recognize it and those occurrences are dwindling and fading into the background.

I am young, but is that not a concept as well
 
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