Fixity meditation

[Prasanam]

I would like to know if someone here does or did the fixity meditation? To fix a point on the floor and do nothing more during 20 minutes, to observe your mental?

I started it few days ago and I would like to know if my reaction seems similar to yours.

Thank you

If not, I will explain you in detail what is this meditation and you will be free to try.

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by Prasanam

If not, I will explain you in detail what is this meditation and you will be free to try.

Would love to hear some more about it, maybe not to try it but it sounds interesting none the less

[Prasanam]

I will give you the exact same thing that I read, like that I'm sure to not do any mistake.

Fixity
The technique is simple:
- Can you sit?
- Can you look?
- Can you breathe?

Ok then, if you think you can sit, look and breathe, then do just that! Nothing else.
Sit on a chair or cross-legged on the floor, look at the floor by fixing a point, and pay attention to your breathing. Easy enough? Try 20 minutes in a row, and you’ll discover yourself a bit. Most people to who we suggested doing fixity could not bare more than 5 minutes at first. In time, you get the hang of it and you can stare in fixity for an hour.

During the practice of fixity, don’t use any mantra or visualization. Don’t have background music. Don’t stimulate your mind in any way. The goal is to bring the mind to a rest. Simply pay attention to a point on the floor, and to your natural breath.

When you first train at fixity, your mind throws out the trash. Your mind will be pulling out any kind of stuff to try to get you out of fixity. Your eyes will start to move around uncontrollably, and your breathing might become harder. This is normal. Your mind is used to continuous stimulation, so it simply obeys the law of inertia, trying to perpetuate its movement. Whenever this happens, simply keep fixing a point on the floor, and relax your breathing.

When you notice your mind starts to follow a single thought, nourishing a mental fantasy, come back to your non-thinking attitude, and keep being aware of the stuff that your mind is pulling out. Simply come back to the simple thought of contemplating your natural breath moving up and down, in and out. While you are aware that your mind is throwing thoughts like
crazy, remain calm and at peace. The goal is eventually not to think anymore, but you have to accept that this is not the case at first. Try not to think, but don’t judge the thinking.

Before your mind stops, you will eventually go thru other stages of purification. Actually these are fun, and produce nice feelings inside your body. While doing simple fixity, contemplating your breathe naturally going up and down, your entire energy system is revitalizing. You might feel tingling sensations here and there. These are precursor to more impressive power surges from your nervous system, celebrating its new freedom.
Going further in any other explanation is useless, since it requires
the experience of it to understand it.

Until now, what I experiemented is really interesting. I started it because I have a lot of problem with my mental ( I can't stop thinking and make up story in my mind). It's not a big problem, but when I started spirituality, I discover a passion for mastering every tools that God gave me.

So far I got one time to the point of no-mind. It was yesterday After 4 days of this kind of meditation I thought; Ok, it won't work, it will get worst in fact, but it seems that my mind decided to cooperate.

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by Prasanam

So far I got one time to the point of no-mind. It was yesterday After 4 days of this kind of meditation I thought; Ok, it won't work, it will get worst in fact, but it seems that my mind decided to cooperate.

It often seems to work like that, I have noticed this in other meditation methods as well.
My theory is that this has to do with "letting go". Once you stop trying too hard, suddenly it works.

It seems to me like a sound meditation method Prasanam !
I have tried similar methods in the past, and it didn't work for me, so I don't think I will switch from my regular meditation method, but if it works for you, by all means stick to it !

[Prasanam]

I agree about the letting go. It's the only way I found to be in peace with the fact that I was not able to stop thinking. When I got in peace with it, I realized; Hey, I am not thinking!...well, now I am but... When I realized it, I coudn't say how much time I spent thinking nothing, but I know I did it.

I'm still working on it. What do you as meditation Edwin?

[Edwin]

I started out with Zen meditation, rather standard Za-Zen which I tried to learn from the internet. It was described as "just sitting still and knowing".
I rather sucked at that, as I had nobody to warn me about the traps of meditation. After a few months I realised that I was getting nowhere with this and searched the internet for a good meditation course, and found the first site of project-meditation. This was before Michael started the forum, and I downloaded the free course and mailed Michael to ask him what the catch was.
The course was too good to be true and I was sure I was in for some sneeky sales technique.

I was so fixed on this in fact, that I gave Michael quite a difficult time when I found out his site also sold the LifeFlow system.
His response was so cool that I had to apologise. He told me he had developed a system, and wanted as much people to enjoy it, that's why he kept the price low. Developing the system cost him quite some money, and he wanted to make an honest profit for the work he did.
Some people in the forum have worked as sound-engineers and they said the same, developing this kind of technology is quite expensive. But I degress...

Anyway, I have been meditation with the free meditation technique for a few years, and slowly it transformed from needing a mantra to not needing a mantra anymore at all. Just sitting still and knowing. Go figure

[Prasanam]

Yesterday was a good one. I started my fixity and I easily got to a point where there were not goal to reach. I was just watching my thought and I noticed something very interesting.
When we act , most of the time we are not aware of what make us act, speak or whatever. With this meditation I see better what make me act and speak and it allows me to be aware of my fear, my shame and me pride.
I always wanted to be aware of everything inside me and now I understand than my mind doesn't want me to be aware of it.

I asked myself why is that? What I see is, my mind has a ego too. My mind , or my thought are what make me believe that I am separated from anything else.

I will keep meditate on it, because I know there is a lot to observe about me fear to not be someone.
Did someone else experimented something like that before? Am I crazy?

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by Prasanam

Yesterday was a good one. I started my fixity and I easily got to a point where there were not goal to reach. I was just watching my thought and I noticed something very interesting.
When we act , most of the time we are not aware of what make us act, speak or whatever. With this meditation I see better what make me act and speak and it allows me to be aware of my fear, my shame and me pride.
I always wanted to be aware of everything inside me and now I understand than my mind doesn't want me to be aware of it.

I asked myself why is that? What I see is, my mind has a ego too. My mind , or my thought are what make me believe that I am separated from anything else.

I will keep meditate on it, because I know there is a lot to observe about me fear to not be someone.
Did someone else experimented something like that before? Am I crazy?

You are doing quite well actually

Rather than saying that the mind has a ego too, I would say that the mind is the ego.
Thoughts as you allready observed come up by themselves, and you observe the thoughts coming up ! So, if you see a thought coming up saying " I am feeling angry " is that " I " who you are, or is it ego ? Did you think the " I " thought, or did you observe it when it came up ?

[Prasanam]

The mind is the ego, is exactly the feeling that I had.
It's difficul to explain state of being with words, but I will do my best.

The 'I' was certainly my ego, the part of me who feel separated and at the same time was a part of everything as consciousness. It was both. Because I still had my point of view ( I am in my body after all), but there were another point of view, higher.
So, yes, the 'I' thought and at the same time I could observe it as me and not me at the same time.

sigh...I am pretty sure you understand, but I feel miserable trying to explain it haha.

[Edwin]

Originally Posted by Prasanam

The mind is the ego, is exactly the feeling that I had.
It's difficul to explain state of being with words, but I will do my best.

The 'I' was certainly my ego, the part of me who feel separated and at the same time was a part of everything as consciousness. It was both. Because I still had my point of view ( I am in my body after all), but there were another point of view, higher.
So, yes, the 'I' thought and at the same time I could observe it as me and not me at the same time.

sigh...I am pretty sure you understand, but I feel miserable trying to explain it haha.

Lol yes it's hard. In time it will get easyer to talk about it, but it will never truly grasp the whole truth.

You said: "I am in my body after all"

Can you describe exactly what part of your body "you" are in ?