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November 27th, 2009, 14:56
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Great sage
Read this:
Ramana Maharshi
Robert Adams efforts might reach you better.
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November 27th, 2009, 21:17
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I like that text, thanks! It has its own strength, reading it leads me to the right direction... gonna have to read it over and over
At least thats something i can do... the self-inquiry.
Ill talk to you in 25 years... :P
Thanks again,
Pan
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November 27th, 2009, 23:29
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Originally Posted by Panthau
I like that text, thanks! It has its own strength, reading it leads me to the right direction... gonna have to read it over and over
At least thats something i can do... the self-inquiry.
Ill talk to you in 25 years... :P
Thanks again,
Pan
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Lol at least I know you read it with your referral to the 25 years
If you have questions... 
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November 28th, 2009, 04:32
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Hi pan,
i have been and am going through the similar circles of self enquiry that lead to many full of chatter head meditation sessions ending in anger and frustrations especially with level 6.may be i was trying too hard or the level
itself was leading me to frantic search for which i theoritically understand
is nothing.It seems so simple yet so difficult , i guess ego and well conditioned
brain/mind doesen't give up easily without a good fight before it's knocked down torest.
It's understandable that Echart tolle had been through similar searching route until his "I can't live with myself anymore moment" which gave birth to his power of now.
Ramana maharishi (thanks for the link Edwin,i've printed out a copy to read and re-read) says everything is predistined similar along the lines to the Zen wisdom of snowflakes falls exactly where it must land which Edwin has posted a few times.I see it this way - with patience and regular practice we'll get there at our destined time.if you are reading on pg 22 RM says "keep practicing, keep practicing and you'll break it down"
Also on pg 23 when asked Is our true self here now? he answered yes, you'll
awakened to it ,but must practice self-inquiry to use ego to get rid of ego.
All the anger clearly makes a lot of sense to me.
I also apply writing down everything that comes to my mind before sitting down for meditation,It settles my mind a lot and has helped me attain calmer sessions however i've developed a greater need of space and quiet, a need to be by myself and sit in endless silence.
I'm enjoying my learning journey
daffodil
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November 28th, 2009, 10:50
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Hi again,
Yes it seems so simple, and this Robert seems to rarely remember his time before he was enlightened ;-), because for him it seems so effortless and for us it seems nearly impossible.
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Lol at least I know you read it with your referral to the 25 years
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Im taking this serious, i want to get there because i feel theres no other path for me (that makes sense in this life). If my mind lays obstacles in my way, its fine, but ill get back on the track. :P
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R: Because you have to use the ego to get rid of the ego.
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Thats interesting. When i ask myself "who feels the anger" f.example, then the one asking the question cant be me. Yet it leads me to my true self. Its paradox in some way... :-)
Pan
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November 28th, 2009, 22:53
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Originally Posted by Panthau
Thats interesting. When i ask myself "who feels the anger" f.example, then the one asking the question cant be me. Yet it leads me to my true self. Its paradox in some way... :-)
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YES ! Exactly !
That in itself is an insight Pan !
Who is the questioner ? The question itself is the questioner !
The ‘I’ casts off the illusion of ‘I’ and yet remains as ‘I’. Such is the paradox of Self- realization.
Ramana Maharshi
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November 29th, 2009, 11:28
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At least, i got one! Its like a lottery win! LOL
No seriously... im asking myself since i´ve been reading this text, all the time "who is doing/thinking/feeling this and that". With the time it feels like im always touching a border, the borders around me. Like the limits im acting within my mind.
Thanks for the link Matti, gonna check it out!
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November 30th, 2009, 11:01
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Thanks for the links nick!
Mooji reflects something in me, which i like... so i like watching his teachings 
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