Perspective change

brozen · August 2nd, 2011, 20:57

Hi all,
I'm not sure if a have a question or concern this time but I'm just going to start writing and maybe that will be enough. Probably best to read this if you are interested in hearing about life through someone else's eyes...

Today, I experienced myself in a different way. I felt like a true observer. Essentially, I was animated awareness. I may as well have been an invisible camera floating through the world. Buildings, grass, pavement, trees, people and cars were all just there. Everything was just happening around me. My existence was irrelevant, events would occur as they are occurring everywhere in the universe, with or without my presence. There was nothing to achieve, or to worry about, there was only me Being where I was.

It's hard to understand where I was. I could feel all the parts of my body interacting with the world. My sight was, for the first time, on level playing fields with the rest of my senses. In that it was just another sense of which to experience the world. Usually I would point to my head in regards to where I was. But now I could've been in my foot or in my mouth. There was less of a 'me' than usual. I still felt like I was in my body, although my body hardly felt like me either. I felt like I may as well have been a tree with a consciousness. The idea that the body is a vehicle made a lot more sense.

On observing the world around me things were understood differently. People were just intelligent animals. The idea of family was funny, that, in most cases, we are born with and stay in close contact to our family for almost our entire lives. Adopting last names, and treating family as more important than other humans. It was hard to know if this is natural or if we only do it because of the way our world is structured. Such an unquestioned idea suddenly became senseless.
The world seemed very misguided. Seeing a building that was devoted to selling accessories for cars. Radios, seat covers, hundreds of odds and ends.
The existence of this building was a representation of compounded human desires.
(This last paragraph may seem a little too analytical for a pure observer but really, it was just observations of observations. Kind of objective factual observation)

I have been writing in the past tense but, this still all applies to the present, just flowed easier that way.

While writing I had an cool thought. I was drinking my green tea from a cup. Thinking that one day after I am dead and decomposed, someone could be drinking out of a cup that was made from parts of me. I may as well be a cup that lacks awareness.

Anyway, thoughts could go on forever but I'll stop before they become mindless ramblings. haha

Would love to hear other people's experiences of the world or of themselves, or whatever comes to your mind after you had a read through my own experience. Or just enjoy not having to respond!

Peace to everything
Cya

GilesC · August 2nd, 2011, 21:23

Hi Brozen,

Originally Posted by brozen

It's hard to understand where I was. I could feel all the parts of my body interacting with the world. My sight was, for the first time, on level playing fields with the rest of my senses. In that it was just another sense of which to experience the world. Usually I would point to my head in regards to where I was. But now I could've been in my foot or in my mouth. There was less of a 'me' than usual. I still felt like I was in my body, although my body hardly felt like me either. I felt like I may as well have been a tree with a consciousness. The idea that the body is a vehicle made a lot more sense.

Not at all hard to understand to those of us who also experience the same. To "others" out there, they may think your bonkers, but I know exactly what you mean.

On observing the world around me things were understood differently. People were just intelligent animals. The idea of family was funny, that, in most cases, we are born with and stay in close contact to our family for almost our entire lives. Adopting last names, and treating family as more important than other humans. It was hard to know if this is natural or if we only do it because of the way our world is structured. Such an unquestioned idea suddenly became senseless.
The world seemed very misguided. Seeing a building that was devoted to selling accessories for cars. Radios, seat covers, hundreds of odds and ends.
The existence of this building was a representation of compounded human desires.
(This last paragraph may seem a little too analytical for a pure observer but really, it was just observations of observations. Kind of objective factual observation)

Misguided... I guess we could make such a judgement, but in reality, the world just IS what it is. The "compounded human ideas" you talk about is just Society... a continuum of the energy of life flowing and changing, whilst at the same time, it is completely unchanging. As you say...

I was drinking my green tea from a cup. Thinking that one day after I am dead and decomposed, someone could be drinking out of a cup that was made from parts of me. I may as well be a cup that lacks awareness.

... so, however we percieve the world or universe, and however misguided or perfect we judge it, at the end of the day, it will always be what it is. You are already the cup, the tea, whatever you perceive, it's just that your mind chooses to seperate you into something "other" and create that dualism.

Hugs

Giles

brozen · August 3rd, 2011, 01:02

Misguided... I guess we could make such a judgement, but in reality, the world just IS what it is.

True. I agree completely. By misguided I really only meant 'insanely different; comparatively'. While every other animal on the planet is eating, sleeping, reproducing. Doing the bare minimum for survival. We have added so many unnecessary (in terms of survival) tasks and desires that we spend our lives worrying about. It's like seeing an elephant building a casino! Hahah madness!

You are already the cup, the tea, whatever you perceive, it's just that your mind chooses to seperate you into something "other" and create that dualism.

This is something I still find hard to get my head around. I keep coming to the conclusion that there is either consciousness or no consciousness, there is never an "I". And that when my body and brain stop working, I will stop experiencing consciousness.
By saying that I am 'already' the cup, doesn't this suggest that consciousness continues after my body dies? I just don't understand how consciousness can ever BE anything. It seems to be completely disconnected from every 'thing'.

Not sure if that makes sense, actually doesn't make sense to me. But I can't think of another way to write it. Maybe if I understood where consciousness comes from...
I don't even know if that's something you can look up lol. AGH!

thanks for your reply.

Karmoh · August 3rd, 2011, 01:41

Hi Brozen,

Your experience is not unusual; it’s just the quiet revolution within. Everybody, everyday experiences the same scenario. The problem is the 99% of us chose to see the material world of form and pass over the awareness of being present.

Once you have glimpsed this freedom it will always be there waiting for you to notice again, don’t pursue it just be and it will be there... where it has always been.

The truth is simple. Freedom is unmistakably free and unmistakably unconcerned with its own personal freedom. It’s in love with that which is beyond the personal self. Call it God, Awareness, Oneness, Consciousness or whatever. The words are like raindrops in the largest ocean. In truth every moment is teaching us. But it is not teaching us a set of ideas or belief which we can store away. Life is teaching us that we are not separate from it and that means not knowing, not resisting, and not trying to control.

Enjoy and don’t analyse, allow awareness to be as it is. There is no conclusion!

Peace

brozen · August 3rd, 2011, 03:56

The truth is simple. Freedom is unmistakably free and unmistakably unconcerned with its own personal freedom. It’s in love with that which is beyond the personal self. Call it God, Awareness, Oneness, Consciousness or whatever. The words are like raindrops in the largest ocean. In truth every moment is teaching us. But it is not teaching us a set of ideas or belief which we can store away. Life is teaching us that we are not separate from it and that means not knowing, not resisting, and not trying to control.

Enjoy and don’t analyse, allow awareness to be as it is. There is no conclusion!

Ahh, Karmoh you made me laugh at myself. I have been getting so concerned about whether or not I am the cup (never thought I would say that). Thanks for the beautiful description. You have saved me many meditation sessions where I am visualizing myself as a tea cup.

thanks again