Pausing LF meditation

Panthau · April 10th, 2011, 17:22

Hi,

Anyone here ever paused LF? I did at level 6, and had to start over at level 10 (9 atm). I wonder if im a special case in that context, or if anyone experienced something similar.

My problem is, that i need to back up a bit from meditation, as it seems to much atm. I dont want to always start again at level 10, because my brain again resists the deeper levels.

Thanks
Phil

Hazelkay · April 10th, 2011, 22:23

Hi Phil,

I don't think you need to restart from level 10 - the 'progress' we make is not lost if we don't meditate or use LF for a while. It is there in our lives.

Although there is the recommendation to work gradually down to level 1, it is not that level 1 is any better than 10 - just different.

If you need to back up, just use whichever tracks are comfortable from the ones you have experienced; you don't have to use those in the 'correct' order.

It's also good to have some sessions without the entrainment, so that you can slip into the meditative state at any time - not just when you are having a formal sit.

If you are playing it cool for a while, I would recommend shortening your sessions rather than missing sessions out.
peace and joy

Panthau · April 10th, 2011, 23:50

Hi Hazel,

Its a good idea to meditate also sometimes without entrainment,
thanks for the hint.

Its not that i want to follow any order when using LF, its just that theres massive
resistance, which gradually falls away again, but i needed several weeks to get down to
level 9 again. Tried recently level 8, but the results were nervousness and the typical feel of resistance.

The weird thing is, that ive already been down that road. I spend at least 2 months with every level, often even a lot more, until i absolutly felt settled with it. Then i stopped - and needed to restart. No problem, but this way ill never experience the deeper levels.

Hazelkay · April 11th, 2011, 11:04

Hi Phil,

I'm wondering whether the entrainment level is the problem or if it is just fear surfacing - I had a long period of fear surfacing when I meditated.

Does the nervousness and resistance start quite soon after you begin?

10, 9 and 8 are all Alpha levels so I wouldn't expect a huge difference in response to them.

It does take some time for the brain to respond to the entrainment, so if the reaction starts quickly - say before you've meditated for 10 minutes - then it could be a mind reaction.

You could explore the feeling of resistance and the nervousness in quite a clinical fashion.

OK I'm feeling this nervousness and resistance - where am I feeling it. All emotions are accompanied by some sensation in the body. For example - Anger is often felt as heat, or tension in the face or hands or solar plexus.

Discover where you are having uncomfortable sensations and describe them to yourself - the exact location, the size of the sensation, the temperature of it, what colour would you call it, is it settled or shifting.

Be very gentle with yourself, do it once in a while, don't hammer at it. I would recommend using the level you are comfortable with most of the time and twice a week try one that you have resistance to, so you can explore the sensations.

Stuff does come up as a result of meditation - sometimes it is short-lived and easily dealt with and sometimes it is recalcitrant and stays around for a long time. I used to have this red hot pain across my shoulder blades whenever I meditated - it lasted for around 3 years without appearing to diminish - then one day it wasn't there and it hasn't been there since.

You could formally ask yourself the question ' What is it I am nervous of, what do I have resistance to? Then put the question on the back burner and let it simmer until the answer pops up.

Hope this is helpful - feel free to ignore if it sounds too wacky!!
peace and joy

Panthau · April 11th, 2011, 18:25

Thanks for your insight Hazelkey!!

To get distance to these feelings is quite hard, but thanks for the reminder!

I just wonder why i had no problems with all these levels for months, even years, and now have to start again. Yep theres a huge difference for me between 10, 9 or 8.

When i switch to a deeper level (8 atm), i never feel nervous or bad in generally while listening, quite the opposite... its ecstatic and im deeply relaxed. Afterwards, though, i have a stinging sensation over the body and i get those feelings, which can last quite long (several days, but the most intensity is in the first few hours after meditation).

Its weird... seems like my resistance has taken over again after pausing LF. I dont mind that much, as every level is beneficial, but its somehow also a bit frustrating to always restart when pausing LF.

olmate · April 12th, 2011, 07:45

Hi Phil,

Maybe take a walk around the idea that progressing to LF 1 is somehow a goal or even a requirement. We are where we are and where we are is always perfect.

Why is getting to 1 important for you?

Nothing but the best...

Olmate

Hazelkay · April 12th, 2011, 07:57

Hi Phil,

I am puzzled by the body's reaction - haven't come across this variation before.

Have you contacted the support team? They consult Michael if necessary and I've always found his answers on the button.

sending much metta
H

Panthau · April 12th, 2011, 09:48

I guess i wont get a better answer from them, then on the forums.

Yes, we are where we are... its just a bit hard for the mind, when it had a climpse on whats possible. Its also the way that lf is made... 10 levels which can be accessed gradually... than you could get into this trap, to want to experience all of them. Of course its also ok to use only one level for 30 years, as long as were here in the now. The weird thing, on the other hand, is, that the deeper levels bring you more into the now lol.

Edwin · April 12th, 2011, 14:40

What meditation method do you do at the moment ? I know you have been busy with Yoga, so maybe it's the meditation method itself that is causing the problem.

And when using LifeFlow with that meditation method, it might enhance the effects of it.
Try your meditation session without LifeFlow a few times to see if this reduces your complaints, or try the free meditation course method to see if the problem still occurs.

There is a reason why Michael gives a free meditation course with LifeFlow you know

Panthau · April 12th, 2011, 18:40

Yes theres a reason for everything. I like to keep my view as wide as possible, as i think they havent found the holy grale yet

The yoga system i tried included pranayama (and a mantra for meditation), which i stopped after a few months because of heavy results. I now meditate only with the given mantra "ayam".

Maybe its just my mind. Maybe theres a reason im restarting, and maybe on a deeper level then before. Maybe someones guiding me. Thats a beautiful thought