feeling sorry for myself!

[Hazelkay]

Have an abscess on my wisdom tooth - observing sensations!:

[Panthau]

Dont judge it... its your brain that sends out pain signals, but dont judge them... love them (ok sounds easier than it is lol) :-) :-)

Wish you a quick recover,
Phil

[Edwin]

Sorry to hear about your predicament.

What self ?

[Hazelkay]

the one that sneaks in when I'm not looking, sort of long in the tooth, dragging a coat full of heavy vibration and a gargoyle face before each hot salt mouthwash!

Back to detached observation!

[Panthau]

Im not sure where this detachements leads us. Isnt the pain part of us, like the rocks in the mountains? Do we detach from the rocks? Do we detach from the universe or from our selfs if theres something we dont like? It may work, but where does it lead?

[Hazelkay]

There I was, just looking for a bit of sympathy, and now we are into philosophy!

I could be like this - identifying with my pain -

'Oooh it hurts! - how long is this going to go on for? - why have teeth if they are going to rot on you? somebody should have organised this differently - it's a root canal or an extraction now and the scary dentist again- get busy and distract yourself, stop being such a wimp - etc etc

or
with detached observation -

it's a bit like heavy champagne bubbles there and as it goes round to the top more like little pinpricks - it all keeps changing, obviously not a permanent state

Needless to say, I am not always absent

[GilesC]

Hi Hazel,

Sympathy Part: Sorry to hear about your poorly tooth. Hope you get it sorted soon as that must be a real pain in the ..... well.... mouth.

Philosophy Part:

Originally Posted by Panthau

Im not sure where this detachements leads us. Isnt the pain part of us, like the rocks in the mountains? Do we detach from the rocks? Do we detach from the universe or from our selfs if theres something we dont like? It may work, but where does it lead?

Recognising that the pain is not a part of the True Self, but is something that is part of the physical body, allows us to have detachment from it. Detachment is not the same as ignoring it though. Consider it like this...

You could recognise the pain, and let the ego self/mind take a hold and all the emotions arise from there, complaining of the pain and the suffering and the needy attachment to get recognised by other people to make them feel sorry for you etc. etc. but none of that actually does anything to help sort out the problem. Alternatively, you can detach from the pain, meaning you recognise that the body is experiencing the pain, and that something needs to be dealt with and, being in the present moment, you will Act, rather than Re-Act, and do what is necessary to sort it out, without the ego mind getting in the way.

So, in this case Hazel's ego mind (and no offence to you Hazel *hugs*) has taken control and sought out the desire to try and gather sympathy from others as if it will help to sort out the problem. This isn't Hazel's true Self, as the true Self knows that "feeling sorry for myself" is not going to resolve the problem, but rather Acting in the present moment will realise that a visit to a doctor or dentist is necessary, if it's beyond dealing with personally.

So Pan, where does it lead? It leads to the quietening of the ego mind and the ability to remain in the present moment and Act rather than Re-Act.

Hugs

Giles

[Panthau]

Thanks, now i got it straight. Its the judging, as always...