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Old May 31st, 2008, 01:03   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by TwoPynts View Post
Well said Raven. It could be said though that certain methods of meditation might be more appropriate for reaching such states.
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A person might be naturally better at being able to perform a particular technique, and therefore find they prefer that technique over others, but the destination of "the meditative state" is the same regardless of technique.

A technique that works very well for one person might not work as well for another. So we need to test the techniques out for ourselves to find which one(s) are most effective for us personally. No doubt about that.

But having found what works best for you, at least in terms of the question above, it doesn't matter which technique it turned out to be. If mantra gives you the greatest success you might find it takes you to those higher frequency brainwave states. On the other hand, if a mindfulness technique works better for someone else they could employ it and find themselves right there with you in those higher frequencies.

Michael's particular mantra technique is one that has near universal success with everyone, and it is certainly simple to learn, easy to remember and use, and from any angle I view it, it appears to be devoid of any religious associations, so it works whether you're a Christian, a Buddhist, a Muslim or an atheist. Just about everyone that tries it and applies themselves is going to experience benefits. But for you, personally, there may be other techniques that work even better. You never know until you give it a try.

I think of it as being a little like feeling hunger. You feel it, I feel it, we all feel it. And we want to satsify that hunger. For you that might be a nice salad and a baked potato. For another it could be a hot bowl of lentil soup. For me it's a Wendy's triple cheeseburger with bacon and fries. Despite the fact that we all start off hungry but choose entirely different meals, we all end up with a feeling fullness and satisfaction. You could, I suppose, argue about the varying nutritional content of our chosen meals, but that would be carrying the analogy beyond its intended purpose.

That's the glorious paradox of being the One and the Many, all at the same time! And now, to top it off, I've made myself hungry for a Wendy's triple cheeseburger!

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Old May 31st, 2008, 01:11   #12 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by Raven View Post
TwoPynts,

A person might be naturally better at being able to perform a particular technique, and therefore find they prefer that technique over others, but the destination of "the meditative state" is the same regardless of technique.
this is true if everyone uses the same definition of "meditative state". but not everyone agrees.
 
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this is true if everyone uses the same definition of "meditative state". but not everyone agrees.
Point conceded, Grey.

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Old May 31st, 2008, 01:28   #14 (permalink)
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Yes, I would say there are different meditative states, not just one all encompasing one. But as per this discussion, and form of moving meditation might not be best for reaching the extreme high and low brainwave states.
 
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Old May 31st, 2008, 07:27   #15 (permalink)
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Wow....I am at a complete loss for words.

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Old May 31st, 2008, 11:46   #16 (permalink)
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Yes I would be interested as well
 
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I'm only on my first meditation cd so I may want to try it down the road.
 
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YES! I'm interested
 
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I would be interested too, so YES!

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Yes! I'm interested...please keep me updated, xx
 
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