Originally Posted by Pavlina
Hello Panthau, GilesC, Pollyana and everybody who reads this!!!!
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Hi!
Nowadays, I find myself not only having thoughts that I observe like clouds that are passing by in the sky while I meditate and listening to Lifeflow9, but I find myself thinking.. solving issues...and almost forgetting why I am sitting down quietly ........ I meditate with a mantra so I go back to my mantra but, I presume it might too much thinking.
When it is a thought that I kind of catch quickly, that's ok but sometimes, my mind goes too far.
Do you have any advice for me???
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Stick at it. It's normal that sometimes we'll get a thought that we get attached to so much that we can be lost in that thought for a long time before we realise we were supposed to be meditating. It happens, it's not wrong, just recognise it and come back to the meditation practice when you do realise. The more you meditate, like riding a bicycle, the easier it becomes to recognise ourselves having the thoughts early on and just let them go.
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How often do you meditate a day???
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Typically, twice a day, once for 40 minutes with lifeflow and once for 20 minutes without, first thing in the morning and then in the evening.
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Last question, how long have you been meditating before you discovered Liflow and do you feel a big difference between your practice without Liflow and with Lifeflow????
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I'd been doing various different styles of meditation and guided meditations etc. on and off for about 4 or 5 years before I learnt mantra based meditation. I then looked online for 'more information' and came across the project meditation site. I joined up to the forums and was promptly booted off

because I had linked to a website showing the meditation style I had learnt in my introductory post, and that was deemed to be spamming (it wasn't even my site and I'd done it innocently, but hey the moderators weren't to know that, I forgive them!

). I continued meditating for about another 10 months before I took the plunge to give Lifeflow a go as well and then ended up re-joining the community, this time taking a little more care in what I said.

I stopped meditating briefly when I had a kidney stone and was in pain in hospital, but my practice of living in the Now and recognising my true Self helped to recognise the pain for what it was which helped (not all the time though, as pain is a good distraction from who we truly are). And here I am, still on the forums with lots of good friends.
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I know having thoughts during meditation is part of the process and to let go and go back to whatever you do, mantra or your breathing is meditation in itself,it is part of entrainment, but when I start thinking......on and on and on....hummm....isn't it too much????
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No. We cannot blame ourselves when we are so used to living in our minds as if we are the mind. Just accept it and carry on.
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However , even with all my questionning about the way I meditate, I feel good about my general practice and the benifits on my daily life.
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Good.
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Ps: It should be part of a new thread I think.....whatever....
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Well... a moderator could split it off I guess, but I don't think any of us are too bothered (unless Pan is as the Original Poster of this thread), and it's fair to say that the attachment of thoughts does relate to the datastream that Pan was talking about.
Hugs
Giles