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December 20th, 2008, 04:40
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Thankyou Keith! Amazing post and appreciated beyond words.
Talk about synchronicity. I only just watched the movie 'Eddington and Einstein', and so this particular sentence popped out at me:
"The ego/mind is limited to the Newtonian paradigm of reality and is not capable of really understanding the nature of life itself."
If you get a chance to watch the movie (starring David Tenant as Eddington and Andy Serkis as Einstein) I recommend it for it offers a great portrayal of the 'Newtonian paradigm' and the quest for truth in the face of dogmatic belief.
A good trailer can be seen here, with the statement at the end summing it up:
YouTube - David Tennant - Einstein & Eddington - New Trailer
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December 20th, 2008, 14:47
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Keith, thank you for sharing that wonderful and inspiring post, full of so many gems of real wisdom
Two paragraphs jumped out at me:
The letting go of all pretensions to knowledge or of knowing about anything is a great relief and is experienced as a tremendous benefit instead of a loss as one feared. One had been, without knowing it, in bondage to the content, and therefore the release from mind is accompanied by a profound sense of peace and absolute security. When this occurs one is finally profoundly home at last, with no doubts remaining. There is nothing more to be gained, nothing which needs to be accomplished or thought. Its finality is absolute, profound, motionless, and still. The endless nuisance of desires and wants and pressure of time have come to a final end and their hollowness stands revealed.
(pgs 104-105, The Eye of the I by David R. Hawkins, M.D., Ph.D.)
In serious spiritual work, it is necessary to have a few simple, basic tools which are absolutely dependable and safe to rely on in order to walk through fear and uncertainty. One basic truth that is of inestimable value and usefulness is the dictum that all fear is fallacious and not based on truth. Fear is overcome by walking directly through it until one breaks through into the joy that the fear is blocking. The joy that follows facing any spiritual fear comes from the discovery that it was merely an illusion without basis of reality.
I felt an immense sense of relief and 'uplift' simply by reading these wonderful quotes, THANK YOU!!!!
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December 21st, 2008, 21:38
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Reading the post of Darren with keiths inserts makes me feel as if we are all sitting in a circle, in one of the most inspiring conversations I have ever whitnessed.
I wish we could do this for real one day. Not just meeting for real, but having a group conversation like this. I am pretty sure it will be mind-boggling.
We could one day try this through programs like Skype, or Teamspeak, all free conversation types through the internet. Just getting a decent time for all people all over the globe might be a prob
I would like to get back to an earlyer remark by Darren, how he has experienced many, as he calls it himself " enbrightning experiences".
I oftan feel I am at the point where this might happen to me for the first time, but it feels as if I am holding back, as if I am a bit scared or something...
Did you have this too Darren ? Or did it just happen to you ? My guess is that once you have had an enbrightning experience, it would become a lot easyer to have another one.
Can you describe what "worked" for you ?
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December 21st, 2008, 22:19
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Originally Posted by Edwin
Reading the post of Darren with keiths inserts makes me feel as if we are all sitting in a circle, in one of the most inspiring conversations I have ever witnessed.
I wish we could do this for real one day. Not just meeting for real, but having a group conversation like this. I am pretty sure it will be mind-boggling.
We could one day try this through programs like Skype, or Teamspeak, all free conversation types through the internet. Just getting a decent time for all people all over the globe might be a prob
I would like to get back to an earlyer remark by Darren, how he has experienced many, as he calls it himself " enbrightning experiences".
I oftan feel I am at the point where this might happen to me for the first time, but it feels as if I am holding back, as if I am a bit scared or something...
Did you have this too Darren ? Or did it just happen to you ? My guess is that once you have had an enbrightning experience, it would become a lot easyer to have another one.
Can you describe what "worked" for you ?
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Edwin,
Key words being "it will be"
it is always fear which holds us from realizing our true nature.
gus
Last edited by bashmaki : December 21st, 2008 at 22:21.
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December 22nd, 2008, 03:44
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Originally Posted by Edwin
I would like to get back to an earlyer remark by Darren, how he has experienced many, as he calls it himself " enbrightning experiences".
I oftan feel I am at the point where this might happen to me for the first time, but it feels as if I am holding back, as if I am a bit scared or something...
Did you have this too Darren ? Or did it just happen to you ? My guess is that once you have had an enbrightning experience, it would become a lot easyer to have another one.
Can you describe what "worked" for you ?
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Sounds like fear is what you need to overcome. As Gus said:
Originally Posted by bashmaki
it is always fear which holds us from realizing our true nature.
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Ultimately fear manifests as every destructive expression you can name, such as worry, anxiety, doubt, hate, and so forth. But, in the end, all fear can be traced back to one thing: fear of death. Overcome this, and all other fear loses its foundation. I have absolutely no fear of anything. How I overcame fear is a long story, and in the interests of not writing lengthy essays I won't go into it. In a nutshell however, I overcame fear by facing my fears and, in particular, by facing my fear of death. Until you face your fear and find your way beyond it, moments of realization will be few and far between - if at all.
Also, yes, the more you have these kinds of experiences the easier it is to have another one. I have found that the first few don't last long because you tend to realize you are having them almost instantly, and the moment you realize it you tend to snap back to 'reality' for want of a better way to describe it. People who have DMT experiences talk of beings who state, "Don't give into astonishment." This is more or less what happens when you first have such experiences - awareness gets interrupted by thinking about what you are experiencing. But, the more you have them, the less astonished you become, and the deeper the awareness experience becomes.
I can offer a suggestion. It helps to have an experience that reinforces your faith and conviction in your mind being something apart from your body, that you can transmit/receive thoughts, that we really are in a playground of shared consciousness, and that you can attract experiences into your life. With one confirmed experience of this nature, doubt gets washed away and it becomes a lot easier. When many people are first introduced to concepts such as consciousness or attraction, they tend to go for the big things - you know, I'll manifest a new car or I'll manifest a million dollars etc. But, it is best to go for something small and something easy, but something that if you can attract it into your life, you will be convinced beyond doubt that it wasn't a coincidence, and that it proves the notion of mind beyond body. The smallest and easiest thing is to attract an experience rather than an object (as manifestation of an object is more complex than manifestation of a non-objectified experience). Make the experience as simple as possible. Make it purely thought based, so that you take no physical action other than that which supports your thoughts. This way, if and when the experience occurs, you know categorically and beyond doubt your mind brought it to you. And, the experience you choose must be something that, if it occurred any time soon, you would say that beyond doubt it was not a coincidence.
A good idea is to choose being contacted by a particular person. Pick a person who would not normally contact you, a person whom you would not expect to contact you, or a person whom if they did contact you, it would be completely out of the ordinary and you would know in your heart that it was no coincidence. Choose someone that you can muster up good memories of - even if you are presently not friends, so long as you have good memories, for it is best to utilize a range of constructive rather destructive thoughts to aid you. You intention is simple: you want this person to contact you. Now, find as many things to help you isolate your attention upon this person: photo's, letters from them, gifts they've given you - anything that can remind you of them and particularly anything that will remind you of the good times with them. If the letters are email based or the photo's are PC based, print them out as the PC will be too much of a distraction. Collect these things, then go and sit on your bed in your room alone. Allow no distractions, no TV noise in the background, no one talking in the background etc - you want complete and utter isolation for your attention and the person who will be the object of your attention. Now, about an hour is good - spend the entire hour paying attention to the photo's, reading the letters written by this person (only good ones, nothing to make you upset or angry!). Study their face entirely in the photograph, cast your mind back to times you spent with this person where you enjoyed their company. Think constructively of this person. For an entire hour, do nothing but keep your mind on everything you like about this person, every positive experience you've had with this person, on all the good thoughts about this person you have. Read letters over and over, focus on their image in the photo's, and keep doing it. You don't need to 'will' them to call you. Your intention at the outset for them to contact you is enough, you do not need to think of that during this process. You just need to fill your mind with thoughts and images of this person that make you feel happy. If you don't smile many times during this process, you are not allowing yourself to imagine the good times vividly enough, or thinking constructively enough about the 'good' this person makes you feel, or remembering well enough the good times etc. You should, by the end of this process, feel good! After an hour or so, you can stop.
The idea is to harmonize your thoughts with the person whom you wish to contact you 'out of the blue'. If they do not immediatley contact you (and do not expect this, do not put a timeframe on it), then the next night repeat the process. In fact, you can repeat this process as many times day or not that you wish. I find once per day is enough though. This process always works unless two things are true: 1) You are not performing the process with enough isolated fixation and with enough constructive thought, or 2) the person whom you are trying to harmonize your thoughts with is not receptive by nature of their own circumstances. Generally I find if you pick someone with enough material to help you isolate your attention and you do so without distraction, the first issue is rarely a problem. The latter can be a problem sometimes, and so if after a couple of weeks to a month you're finding no response, change tact by choosing a different person (always one that if they contact you, it would blow your mind). In my experience, the need to switch to someone different is rare. Most people tend to get results quite quickly.
Intend them to contact you. Isolate your attention on them. Expect their contact in whichever way it comes. But because you chose someone who you think it would not be a coincidence if they do contact you, when they do you'll have your first real and definite experience of using your mind to attract something. When you do this, doubt is eradicated about the relationship between mind and body. Fear of death becomes weaker because you also learn at the same time that your mind goes beyond your body, and death is merely the end of the body. Death is a transition moment of the mind, it is not a finality of it. Expand your experience of things beyond the body, and you take great steps towards overcoming fear related issues that are isolated to the body.
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December 22nd, 2008, 11:03
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Thank you Gus and Darren !
It almost always takes someone else to notice the obvious it seems.
Maybe because I am standing so close to it I can't recognise it.
When Gus said it was fear, I immediately felt feelings of resisting, so it must be true. Indeed, about a year ago I have been struggling with the concept of death quite strongly. I have come to peace with that fear, but I haven't overcome it I guess. It still is a sore spot so to speak.
I guess I have my work cut out for me  I will try the visualisation experiment you gave me Darren ! In a way, it reminds me of the book " The Celestine Prophecy " which I read about 15 years ago. This book first put me on the path of self discovery that I am on today.
I do know that I have had these momentary realisations you describe, and I think "don't give in to astonishment" is a wonderfull way to describe what happens when I reach it. I know during what exercise I have these moments, and I can reproduce these moments, but I couldn't hold on to them. Now I know that this is the right path, I just have to reproduce it so much that I will get used to the feeling and won't destroy it with thought again immediately.
Thanks again guys !
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December 22nd, 2008, 16:07
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I have to second that statement of Darrens about giving into astonishment. As soon as one "thinks", "a-hah I'm there!" You're not!
gus
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December 22nd, 2008, 17:01
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Originally Posted by bashmaki
As soon as one "thinks", "a-hah I'm there!" You're not!
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I too have noticed that life seems to work that way
How are you doing yourself Gus ? Any improvement lately ?
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December 24th, 2008, 06:34
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hi Edwin. If you dont mind,what excersises do you do to experience these feelings.all the best ian
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December 24th, 2008, 06:42
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Hi Darren I was wondering if you could recommend a book to me that would get me started on my journey to "enbrightenment". I intend on getting your book after Christmas.Could you please recommend something that would not be too hard a read.Thank you for all you interesting posts.I must admit I usually have to read the lines a couple of times but find them interesting. Thank you and Merry Christmas and all the best at the holiday.....peace..Ian
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