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Old August 31st, 2009, 18:16   #11 (permalink)
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Originally Posted by CharlieBrown View Post
My bad Giles, I assumed the whole LOA "thing" came out with "The Secret" - now I understand...
I have a friend (David a.k.a. Venetian) over on the forum I moderate on, who has a lot of deep understanding and knowledge of historical spiritual matter including the law of attraction.

Here's a thread over there where we were talking LOA (in fact there's a lot of threads, but this one's a starting point)...
The Secret - Gosh or Tosh?? - Healthypages

Essentially, David has done a lot of research/reading and is well aware of "old" texts, dating back to victorian times and before, that describe exactly the same thing as the LOA.

"The Secret" is just a modern day re-hash of old age knowledge and tailored towards material gain. As you'll be able to tell from that thread and others, David isn't much of a fan of "The Secret" as an accurate teaching of the LOA.

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Old March 12th, 2010, 13:04   #12 (permalink)
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I always say this, 'The Secret' is good movie for introduction but a bad movie to follow. People who watch it simply assume that visualization and wo woo positive thinking is their work. THAT IS NOT SO!

Anyways, awesome questions...
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Let’s make an example: at some point it says that to lose weight, you can follow the LOA process and do nothing else than that (no need to exercise more or reduce the food intake). Now, this is just impossible for me to digest. There is one thing called the energetic balance: if you absorb more calories than you burn, your body will transform a part of the rest in fat – as simple as that. So how do the two things reconcile?
You are assuming that loosing weight is an action journey. You do some action and result will be less weight. But everything in this vibrational universe is vibrational journey and for anything to change, it must change it's vibration.

Here is someone who is over weight and wanting to loose weight - tires a 100 things and looses some of it but gains back again. But here is someone who changes the thought or vibration behind it. Now here is somehting important: You do not get fat necessarily coz you are thinking about being fat. You are getting fat (away from natural well being) because you don't like that person at work, you hate your ex, you hate that man next dore. Any negative thought, if prolonged, will cause such effects.

Now you change that by looking thins to appreciation. Making effort to feel better no matter what - all day every day. Now your carving subsides and your body returns to it's natural state of health as it is responding to yoru thoughts.


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Another one is about abundance: just believing that there is enough for anyone, is simply not true, as proved not only by economics (which deals with managing scarce resources), but by logic as well: let’s assume we all want to go and live in the south of Italy, because we like the weather there. That would just be plain impossible, because of the scarcity of the resource “land”, which results in scarcity of the resource “house” – not enough space for building houses for all of us.
"What you believe is what you get". If you believe that there is finite amount of money that Law of Attraction will show you results that match that belief.

Just think about this, is the amount of money, today, same as it was in 1810? 1910? No! It's increasing - as more and more people are asking and increasing their 'awareness abundance. Money is not related to amount but mindset,


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Last thing: I don’t see how can I buy into the “if you can imagine it, you can make it real” concept: I can imagine an apple floating in mid air, give thanks for it, live as if it was happening, but given there is a thing called “law of gravity”, this will never happen! Don’t take me wrong: I appreciate the other way around, which is that if something does not materialize in the mind first, it will not be materialize in the outer reality either (for something to happen, I have to believe in it and make it happen in my mind first). However, I just don’t believe in the other part of the equation, as per point above…
Law of Gravity, has been overcome so many times. THat's how we reached the moon. If you really desire that apple to float and believe it can - you will find a way.

Remember, the idea of electricity and iPod was as absurd as this idea of floating apple is (some years ago) and now it's obvious. That's law of attraction a result of which is the law of gravitation.


Hope that helps.
 
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